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Why frozen embryos may be better than fresh
Hi ladies, an interesting article from Reuters:
In IVF, frozen embryos may fare better than fresh | Reuters
Hi ladies, an interesting article from Reuters:
In IVF, frozen embryos may fare better than fresh | Reuters
I had almost no bleeding after the procedure, and have basically recovered by next day.
How are u feeling Liquorice? I read in another thread that you noticed a little spotting last week? Have you called your doctor?
I now wait for my next period to come, then can start my FET.
MayC, how was your trip to Shanghai? Hope you've had a good holiday! When do you start your FET?
How are u feeling Liquorice? I read in another thread that you noticed a little spotting last week? Have you called your doctor?
I now wait for my next period to come, then can start my FET.
MayC, how was your trip to Shanghai? Hope you've had a good holiday! When do you start your FET?
Hi Hkigal, I'm fine now, was just panicking. This is my first pregnancy so no idea what to expect.
Glad you are well.
Did you read the article I posted? Makes interesting reading. Interesting also that they think that the egg retrieval process might traumatise the uterus so make implantation a little harder a couple of days later. It makes sense.
Good luck with your FET. Yours too MayC.
Glad you are well.
Did you read the article I posted? Makes interesting reading. Interesting also that they think that the egg retrieval process might traumatise the uterus so make implantation a little harder a couple of days later. It makes sense.
Good luck with your FET. Yours too MayC.
Hi ladies. I came back. I wasn't anywhere but I've felt down and hopeless and I thought was wiser to stay in silence and not overwhelm you with my fears and negativity.
So, these being my premises, I am very happy for you dear Liquorice, enjoy these moments, I think all of us are with you!
The same August mum!
I am happy that you resolved the problem, hkiegal, and glad you are back on truck!
As for me, I don't know exactly if I'll do the FET this cycle or next but I will read you, keep posted about this or just being here for you my dearest friends.
Thank you Liquorice for the Reuters link about FET, very useful and brings me hope. I needed something like this.
I had a terrible depression until my body throw out all the progesterone and that is the only thing I am afraid of. But with your beautiful news I learn to be more positive.
A big hug to all of you!
So, these being my premises, I am very happy for you dear Liquorice, enjoy these moments, I think all of us are with you!
The same August mum!
I am happy that you resolved the problem, hkiegal, and glad you are back on truck!
As for me, I don't know exactly if I'll do the FET this cycle or next but I will read you, keep posted about this or just being here for you my dearest friends.
Thank you Liquorice for the Reuters link about FET, very useful and brings me hope. I needed something like this.
I had a terrible depression until my body throw out all the progesterone and that is the only thing I am afraid of. But with your beautiful news I learn to be more positive.
A big hug to all of you!
hi all
happy to hear that adrianna is feeling more positive..i think its important that you feel good enough before you embark on fet.. there is no rush..and you can take some time to have a break from all the infertility treatment.
mayc - welcome back from your holiday. happy to see you in the forum again.
hkiegal - i think you must be feeling better after going thru your personal ordeal. hopefully - there will be a time when you think you are ready again to restart the journey.
liquorice.. how are you feeling?
as for me.. i had my scan last tuesday.. one heartbeat. i am 7 weeks pregnant now. Doc told me to be careful as the risk of miscarriage is higher for me due to my age. i take my battle each day at a time. At present.. bad nausea and metal mouth.. i shant scare you all abt these.. suffice to say.. i am managing as much as i can.
take care everyone x
happy to hear that adrianna is feeling more positive..i think its important that you feel good enough before you embark on fet.. there is no rush..and you can take some time to have a break from all the infertility treatment.
mayc - welcome back from your holiday. happy to see you in the forum again.
hkiegal - i think you must be feeling better after going thru your personal ordeal. hopefully - there will be a time when you think you are ready again to restart the journey.
liquorice.. how are you feeling?
as for me.. i had my scan last tuesday.. one heartbeat. i am 7 weeks pregnant now. Doc told me to be careful as the risk of miscarriage is higher for me due to my age. i take my battle each day at a time. At present.. bad nausea and metal mouth.. i shant scare you all abt these.. suffice to say.. i am managing as much as i can.
take care everyone x
Hi MayC, don't forget that I also failed my fresh IVF but succeeded with the FET so that makes three people you know....unless you were referring to me as the person in HK. I pray that it is the same for you guys too. Glad you had a great time in Shanghai and so glad that you feel refreshed and ready to go!!
August, when your doctor says to 'be careful', has he told you how - e.g. rest more, do not exercise, eat certain things etc.? At the moment I am still exercising quite a bit. Everything I have read says it is okay but sometimes I worry a little.
I go to see my doctor for the first time tomorrow but I don't know whether he will do a scan.
August, when you say 7 weeks do you mean from conception or how the doctors count it from the beginning of the cycle?
August, when your doctor says to 'be careful', has he told you how - e.g. rest more, do not exercise, eat certain things etc.? At the moment I am still exercising quite a bit. Everything I have read says it is okay but sometimes I worry a little.
I go to see my doctor for the first time tomorrow but I don't know whether he will do a scan.
August, when you say 7 weeks do you mean from conception or how the doctors count it from the beginning of the cycle?
you are right MayC...basically no contact sports. if you have been exercising all your life like running, swimming.. i suppose your body is used to that rhythm and that should not be a problem. Check with you doctor if you are unsure.oh.. dr ho also said " no sex".. as if that will happen!!
as for food.. there are no definite no- nos from him apart from the usual suspects of soft cheese, sushi, uncooked/raw food eg carpaccio etc etc.. i have no appetite these days.. so.. i stick to my basic staple of bread, rice, pasta.
as for the gestation of 7 weeks.. yep.. its calculated from the 1st of your last period.
good luck everyone with your FET cycles.. and baby dust to all of you
as for food.. there are no definite no- nos from him apart from the usual suspects of soft cheese, sushi, uncooked/raw food eg carpaccio etc etc.. i have no appetite these days.. so.. i stick to my basic staple of bread, rice, pasta.
as for the gestation of 7 weeks.. yep.. its calculated from the 1st of your last period.
good luck everyone with your FET cycles.. and baby dust to all of you
new to this all....
hello ladies
i thought i would join you and say hello. i have just gone through my first iui and found out today it that i am not pregnant (blood test at doctor's). i am also with dr ho as i think some of you are.
we can't start again straight away as we are going away for the long weekend so will be away for the day 2 scan and blood test (assuming the progesterone pessaries don't mess up the length of my cycle). so we have decided to start again next month and to go straight onto ivf. i am a bit apprehensive about this having read many different forums on it, including this one. i've been checking fertility friends (UK site) as that has a lot of people on it but it feels so distant since it's all happening in the uk and the situations/drugs/processes are different over here.
i am feeling positive but as my husband isn't much of a talker and i don't have a lot of close friends here in hk i think it would really help if i could join your thread and get a bit more support!
if you don't mind, could those of you who've done icsi/ivf with dr ho let me know a rough timeline/idea of procedures? kelly, his nurse, said it was the same as iui except for the egg retrieval but reading through your posts it seems there is a lot more involved. for iui i was on the lowest dosage of gonal-f, 75 iui, then had the trigger (ovitrelle?) at day 10, then iui on day 12, then 2 x progesterone pessaries everyday till today when i found out it had failed. how will things differ with ivf? also, do you do general anaesthetic with dr ho for the ER? he said not...
it's also tricky planning ahead as my husband travels quite a bit for work. i am lucky as i only teach part-time so can get away easily for tests etc - but am not stuck at home brooding all the time. though today i have been doing a bit of that ;-)
anyway, you can tell i have a lot to say - this being the first time i've posted online! so i'll shut up now...
hope to hear from you.
kazbo
hello ladies
i thought i would join you and say hello. i have just gone through my first iui and found out today it that i am not pregnant (blood test at doctor's). i am also with dr ho as i think some of you are.
we can't start again straight away as we are going away for the long weekend so will be away for the day 2 scan and blood test (assuming the progesterone pessaries don't mess up the length of my cycle). so we have decided to start again next month and to go straight onto ivf. i am a bit apprehensive about this having read many different forums on it, including this one. i've been checking fertility friends (UK site) as that has a lot of people on it but it feels so distant since it's all happening in the uk and the situations/drugs/processes are different over here.
i am feeling positive but as my husband isn't much of a talker and i don't have a lot of close friends here in hk i think it would really help if i could join your thread and get a bit more support!
if you don't mind, could those of you who've done icsi/ivf with dr ho let me know a rough timeline/idea of procedures? kelly, his nurse, said it was the same as iui except for the egg retrieval but reading through your posts it seems there is a lot more involved. for iui i was on the lowest dosage of gonal-f, 75 iui, then had the trigger (ovitrelle?) at day 10, then iui on day 12, then 2 x progesterone pessaries everyday till today when i found out it had failed. how will things differ with ivf? also, do you do general anaesthetic with dr ho for the ER? he said not...
it's also tricky planning ahead as my husband travels quite a bit for work. i am lucky as i only teach part-time so can get away easily for tests etc - but am not stuck at home brooding all the time. though today i have been doing a bit of that ;-)
anyway, you can tell i have a lot to say - this being the first time i've posted online! so i'll shut up now...
hope to hear from you.
kazbo
Thanks MayC
Do you get a pen for the extra drugs you inject, like you do with Gonal-F? I hate needles but managed OK with Gonal-F as the injection was so quick (only a low dose so only one click) and because of the pen thing. I'm not sure how I would do with an actual syringe and all that jazz. How about the Ovitrelle (same as I had with my IUI). Last time I went to the Canossa for the injection rather than doing it myself.
Perhaps I got the wrong end of the stick then on ER - I'd rather be under general in case of any discomfort. But then general also makes you feel so drowsy and nauseous. Did you husband stay with you throughout this process? Also where was it carried out?
Thanks for any info you can give!
Kazbo
Do you get a pen for the extra drugs you inject, like you do with Gonal-F? I hate needles but managed OK with Gonal-F as the injection was so quick (only a low dose so only one click) and because of the pen thing. I'm not sure how I would do with an actual syringe and all that jazz. How about the Ovitrelle (same as I had with my IUI). Last time I went to the Canossa for the injection rather than doing it myself.
Perhaps I got the wrong end of the stick then on ER - I'd rather be under general in case of any discomfort. But then general also makes you feel so drowsy and nauseous. Did you husband stay with you throughout this process? Also where was it carried out?
Thanks for any info you can give!
Kazbo
Hi Kazbo,
I wasn't with Dr Ho but have had IUI, IVF and FET. I didn't get a pen for the other drugs (non GonalF drugs) but to be honest the needle is about the same size so I found it just as easy to do. Having said that, some people find it harder so I guess it is just personal.
The anesthetic I was under for the ER was a twilight anesthetic. It is actually morphine I think... Anyway it is supposed to put you under very well but not completely so no nausea or other side effects of a general. I woke up a bit towards the end and it was a little uncomfortable but no real pain as I was still so affected by the morphine.
And like yours, my husband also travels a lot. We had to just play it week by week to understand likely ER dates (he needs to 'donate' at the same time) and he would adjust his schedule accordingly. Fortunately he does lots of one or two night short haul flights and could be flexible in terms of shifting. We did just block off two weeks where he tried to only commit to travel at the last minute. You should be able to get a likely date for the ER as soon as you start the cycle but allow for flexibility. I took much longer to be ready than anticipated - almost a week as I recall - and that was even with increasing my GonalF significantly as well.
By the way, I don't think the progesterone pessaries will mess up your cycle. I didn't take them for IUI but I was taking them on my IVF cycle and my period came exactly two days after the failed test.
Good luck with it all! I think you'll find this forum very helpful. It is a tough time. As MayC said, a lot of us don't have many people to talk to about it all so it is real support being able to vent and get advice with other people going through the same thing.
Take care.
I wasn't with Dr Ho but have had IUI, IVF and FET. I didn't get a pen for the other drugs (non GonalF drugs) but to be honest the needle is about the same size so I found it just as easy to do. Having said that, some people find it harder so I guess it is just personal.
The anesthetic I was under for the ER was a twilight anesthetic. It is actually morphine I think... Anyway it is supposed to put you under very well but not completely so no nausea or other side effects of a general. I woke up a bit towards the end and it was a little uncomfortable but no real pain as I was still so affected by the morphine.
And like yours, my husband also travels a lot. We had to just play it week by week to understand likely ER dates (he needs to 'donate' at the same time) and he would adjust his schedule accordingly. Fortunately he does lots of one or two night short haul flights and could be flexible in terms of shifting. We did just block off two weeks where he tried to only commit to travel at the last minute. You should be able to get a likely date for the ER as soon as you start the cycle but allow for flexibility. I took much longer to be ready than anticipated - almost a week as I recall - and that was even with increasing my GonalF significantly as well.
By the way, I don't think the progesterone pessaries will mess up your cycle. I didn't take them for IUI but I was taking them on my IVF cycle and my period came exactly two days after the failed test.
Good luck with it all! I think you'll find this forum very helpful. It is a tough time. As MayC said, a lot of us don't have many people to talk to about it all so it is real support being able to vent and get advice with other people going through the same thing.
Take care.
Thanks Liquorice - that's really useful stuff
Sadly my husband's work trips are dictated by his clients and non-moveable once they're in the diary - which tends to be months in advance! Still we can work around them.
However when you say it took you longer to get ready for ER, did your cycle end up being 5 weeks rather than 4 then? That could be a problem with the travel if so which my husband has deliberately tried to plan around the 4 week cycles...
So you have to mix your own drugs and suck them into the syringe and then puncture and plunge all yourself? Gulp. May have to enrol the other half for that!
The twighlight anaesthetic sounds like a good plan - perhaps I can request that.
Sadly my husband's work trips are dictated by his clients and non-moveable once they're in the diary - which tends to be months in advance! Still we can work around them.
However when you say it took you longer to get ready for ER, did your cycle end up being 5 weeks rather than 4 then? That could be a problem with the travel if so which my husband has deliberately tried to plan around the 4 week cycles...
So you have to mix your own drugs and suck them into the syringe and then puncture and plunge all yourself? Gulp. May have to enrol the other half for that!
The twighlight anaesthetic sounds like a good plan - perhaps I can request that.
Kazbo, just looked at my diary. I started the IVF cycle on the 25th of Jan, had the ER on the 10th of February and the embryo transfer on the 12th. So actually I think it was only around 4 or 5 days out. The reason being that the eggs were not sufficiently developed. I also took longer than originally anticipated for the FET. I started the cycle on Monday 1st of March and didn't have the ET until the 20th - that is three weeks. This time the reason was because the uterus lining was not thick enough. I do have quite long menstrual cycles though - up to six weeks sometimes - so I am probably not a normal case. The doctor did comment often on how long I was taking.
