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Hi everyone. I've been lurking and following your thread and hoping for the best for all of you, but have been busy with the baby so not posting post much. So sorry to hear about the failed cycles, but congrats on the positive betas!

This site might be of interest to those of you with postive betas if you haven't found it already: The BetaBase. It has average betas for singletons, twins and triplets. Betas are interesting, but I wouldn't stress or get too excited about having twins as the beta is not definitive indicator.


My first pregnancy was about average for betas for a twin pregnancy and it was a twin pregnancy, although ultimately we ended up with a vanishing twin at 10 weeks. The betas for my second pregnancy was over the average for triplets! I was worrying myself silly for the 2 weeks until the ultrasound. But in the end it was one healthy singleton! (Dimsum Mum - I don't know how you manage! I was quaking in my boots to think of having triplets as well as my 3 yo. And now I find it a struggle to juggle two even with domestic help which I wouldn't have back home.) So the betas may or may not be an indicator.

hkiegal - Sorry to hear that you are in beta limbo, but as one of the other posters said it is definitely a good sign that your body is capable of implantation. Hope you will have definite news soon so that you can either celebrate or move on to your next cycle.
 
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Adrianna, I had one shot of pregnyl on day of ET, then one shot 2 days later, another shot 2 days after the 2nd shot. Like Augustbump said, this is to make my body "think" I am pregnant so to accept the embryos. All the while, I was on progesterone twice daily, and also on tablets morning and evening (can't remember the name).
My doctor mentioned that for a FET cycle, I would also need to take these 3 shots of pregnyl. I guess different doctors have different protocols, let's share all our experience here on this forum!
Are you going to rest for one month and start FET in May?
 
hkiegal - For my FET cycles with Dr Ho, they were all natural cycles. I would use an ovulation kit and Dr Ho would confirm ovulation using blood tests and ultrasound. Transfer was either 3 days or 5 days after ovulation depending on whether the embryos were 3 or 5 day. After the transfer, I only used the progesterone pessaries twice a day. Besides that, I did acupuncture to improve my health generally and to improve the chances of implantation. Don't know whether the acu helped, but the chance to nap two lunchtimes per week during my acu appts probably did help reduce stress and get me more rested!
 
Yes, hkiegal if I feel prepared probably I will do the ET on May. I didn't start immediately, even if my period came on the same day of beta test (so my body functioned like a good oily machinary) because I couldn't bear it. Just like that.
So, I wait the next period and see what to do. I do it because I have these 2 embryos wainting for us and I think it's right. I hope everything will be fine even if the IVF Center said sometimes the frozen ones could be lost in the process but...I still hope ....
I talked with my husband and we decide that if the FET will not be ok, the next try will do it in Spain probably where is another level of profesionalism and responsability. But, I still don't want to be negative 100% because august, liquorice just gave us a wonderful news so maybe...maybe..it will work it and for me (us).
A big hug girls!
 
MayC don't read my post! I am very negative these days and you don't need that!
I probably need more days to forget how I was treated and how supposed to be treated when you suffer. But once I step down for a while and empty my soul, I become more positive, just the same who posted here before.
So, cheer up and be optimistic! Some more days and I be able to support you and to do this way together...again.
 
hi liquorice

how are you feeling? do you still need to do a blood test today?keep us posted!

adrianna and mayc - am happy to hear that you girls are fighting back and feeling much better and more positive.

am trying to keep busy and not over thinking the whole situation. i have a doc appointment on april 13 to do a scan. i believe i will be 7 weeks then..fingers crossed...
 
Hi ladies,

I went for another blood test this morning, and just now, the doctor called me back to tell me that my numbers are still going up! He said my placenta is still growing but i am just puzzled by this, I failed my cycle so what is my placenta growing for??

I will go and see him tomorrow morning for a scan to hopefully rule out the possibility of an ectopic pregnancy.

Hope everyone had a nice Easter holiday, as I certainly did, Bali was great and I came back with a fabulous tan!! :)....not to mention that I had lots to drink over this holiday!!!
 
hi hkiegal

i think this is very exciting!i hope you will bring positive news to us later today.. fingers crossed for you.

in hindsight.. maybe all the drinks in Bali helped!

x
 
I went to see the doctor this morning, and on the ultrasound, we could see a sac in my uterus, so the possibility of an ectopic pregnancy has been ruled out. I am 4 1/2 weeks pregnant according to the sac, but I should be 6+ weeks. My HCG level is still on the low side, so doctor said this would not be an viable pregnancy. To wait til my hormones reach its peak, it might still take some time, so now, it lies on me whether I want to wait til it peaks then drop or end it right here and then. What would u do??
 
Btw, my HCG yesterday was only 1550, on 31/3 it was 456.
I had my ET on 6/3, all data shows that I am at least 2 weeks behind.
 
hi hkiegal

i agreed with mayc.. trust your body to do the right thing. it will know whether to keep the pregnancy or let mother nature do the right thing. Sometimes -doctors may not be 100% correct.

i know this must be difficult for you - so hang in there.
 
Hey Hkiegal, I agree with MayC and Augustbump. Let your body decide what to do. Has your doctor offered no explanation as to why you could be behind like this now that eptopic pregnancy has been ruled out? Has he talked it through clearly with you? This must be very difficult for you, and worse because you are just hanging in limbo. When he said to wait until your hormones peak, did he give an indication of how long? Keep us posted, and take care x
 
One way of monitoring me is to take blood test regularly to chart when I have reached my peak point, but he said this could take weeks. He did explain clearly to me that it's the embryo not developing into fetus, which has something to do with the quality. Implantation is not a problem and IVF procedure is not the cause of it, to think the embryo has survived til now though its not a good one says that embryos can survive within my womb. He said this could have happened even in a natural cycle too, so he would rather I end it now and start a new cycle.

Am going for another blood test tomorrow morning, then will decide if I am doing the procedure tomorrow night. Luckily, I should recover very quickly and be back on schedule for FET in May.

Too bad this one is not meant to be, but it sure is strong and hangs in there.......almost as strong as me!! Haha :)

Am travelling next week, that is why doctor would like to clear this before I go and give me a peace of mind.

Thanks for all your support, and i will hang in there!!
 
Oh I see, so there is no chance that the embryo will develop into a fetus? No chance at all? That is a bit different then. Maybe ending it so you can start a new cycle is not a bad idea.

Ladies, do you know whether if you have a miscarriage after an IVF procedure whether the symptoms are the same? In a natural conception miscarriage you start to bleed, right? But if I am taking so much estrogen and progesterone artificially then would I bleed if I had a miscarriage? Or is that a stupid question?

Enjoy your holiday MayC.
 
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hi liquorice

in my previous experiences, i had bleeding.. heavier flow than normal menstruation.. and maybe a little too much information here.. but its "gunky" if you know what i mean. I had estrogen and also progesterone pessaries. Some cramping but other than that.. it was "manageable".

how are you holding up?
 
mayC.. thanks for your wishes.. i hope things will go smoothly for me too.. just taking a day at a time. Have a good hol.

hkiegal.. i guess you will need a couple of days to decide what you want to do.. maybe another chat with doc will be good. all the best..
 
August - had my blood test today and it is still a strong hcg level so fingers crossed.

How much affect do you girls think that a lot of stress has on the safety of the fetus? I have read that most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormalities but stress must affect also no? I am set up to fly a lot over the next couple of weeks and I am terrified of flying. I do it because I have to but I used to take drugs, now I just sit it out but there is a hell of a lot of adrenalin coursing through my body. Not sure whether I should just refuse to travel over the next few weeks until the pregnancy is more stable. What do you think?

Hkiegal, good luck with your decision today. I am sure that you will make the right one, whichever it is, so stay strong. Take care.
 
hi all

liquorice.. nice to hear that the hcg is going up!!!! yipee doo dah!!! well.. apparently stress level has very little to do with pregnancy. Dr Ho said to me once that women work in fields, carrying heavy loads and have highly stress job .. yet they are able to sustain the pregnancy. But i would suggest to keep stress level at a manageable level for anyone irregardless if they are pregnant or not.

as for flying- if you think you will have a peace of mind whilst traveling.. then.. yeah... i think its ok to fly. Ask yourself where is your comfort zone.. everyone is different.. i wish you well..

mayc - happy hols!
 
Finally decided to have the procedure, D&C was performed on thursday night.

How are you girls doing??

Adrianna, how are things with you?
 
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