Traveling with a new born Canadian on the Mainland

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prone_to_wander

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I would like some help from any Canadians out there. Both my husband and I are Canadians.

My in-laws are coming in August (2 months after my baby will be born) and would like to see some of China.

I've read that it is pretty easy to get the emergency passports for the baby from the Canadian Consulate while you are waiting for them to process his citizenship. Has anyone had any trouble with this?

But the big question is: I've also read somewhere that the mainland wasn't issuing visitor visas for Canadians newly born in Hong Kong. Has anyone had this experience? Or were you able to get visas for the bub?

thanks everyone
 
We had no trouble getting a passport for our son. We just had to show we were going away and needed the passport. We applied for his passport and his citizenship card at the same time. Was all really easy. Received the passport in 15 days and the citizenship card 8 months later.

Sorry can't answer the question about the China Visa
 
When we got our daughter's temporary passport ahead of the citizenship card, we had to have proof of travel - we had to show an itinerary.
Haven't tried to get a China visa for her, sorry!
 
Hi,
I don't know if I reading your post correctly. If you give birth in Hong Kong then your baby will automatically become citizen of China therefore he can get his HK ID card, passport and his permit to go to China without applying for a China visa. It usually takes about 11 days to get the HK ID card and about another 2 weeks for the permit.

Cheers,
Yee
 
Well the problem is that the baby doesn't get automatic citizenship as he won't be Chinese. We are here on work visas.

I've been reading up on this and it looks like there is a dispute between Canada and China because they used to write that you were born in Taiwan, Macao or Hong Kong and China wanted them to write that they were from China. Only China. Thus a big issue came up. But I'm reading the notice on the consulate Canadians Born in Hong Kong or Macao and it looks like as long as they don't put HKG or MAC... we'll be ok...I hope.
 
yee, your post is 100% wrong. what you say is ONLY applicable to chinese. if they are not chinese, then they need a visa.

i had no problem with either of my kids. although, i would make a note that it's 15 WORKING days to get the passport.
 
That's very interesting, just learned something new! Sorry for the wrong the information.

I gave birth in HK but then my husband is local so I guess that's a different story.

Cheers,
Yee
 
yee, no problem.
i gave birth in hk, too... and my husband is a local.

my kids, although eligible for a home return permit, are also canadian citizens.

we did not want our kids to have one as my husband prefers the canadian citizenship for my kids.

only chinese children born in hk may be eligible for the home return permit.

any "expat" children who are not chinese, are not eligible and must have a visa.

(so, my kids got visas in their canadian passports, because we didn't want the home return permit.)
 
Carang,
Now I am worry, I thought that if one of the parents is local then the child is allowed to have dual citizenship? I am not a permanent resident of HK but I will be in HK for 7 years next year so I thought I can apply for permanent resident next year and have dual citizenship too. Thank you for the clarification.

Cheers,
Yee
 
yee, there is a difference between permanent residency and citizenship.

hk does not have "citizenship", that belongs to china.

hk DOES have permanent residency. locally born chinese are citizens of china, permanent residents of hong kong.

i am not chinese. i am canadian. i will never be a citizen of china, but i AM a permanent resident of hong kong.

my husband is a citizen of china, AND a PR of hong kong. because HE holds BOTH, then my children are eligible for both.

however, if i was married to a canadian, but we were both PR in hong kong, then our children would NOT be citizens of china.

i am a citizen of canada (and uk, i have 2 passports). my children CAN have dual citizenships, if we apply for a hk passport for them. my husband doesn't want to do that right now. he ONLY wants the canadian passport for them. HOWEVER, they are still PR of hong kong.

does that make any sense at all?
 
My husband was born here but renounced his Chinese citizenship 10+ years ago when the handover was happening, so he kept his Australian citizenship and he kept his HK permanent ID card, but it was "downgraded" to the kind that an expat will get after 7 years - he has to come back every 3 years or he can lose it, and he's not eligible for a HK passport etc... BUT when my daughter was born, just because she has Chinese blood, she was given Chinese citizenship (which we don't even want as neither of us have it). The same thing happened to a Singaporean friend - just because her kid has chinese blood, she was also given Chinese citizenship at birth regardless of the nationality of the parents (neither of which is a Chinese citizen). So I think that the citizenship is totally based on blood, not nationality.
 
Thank you all for the clarification. This is what I understood from your posts: I am also a Canadian, I was not born in HK but my husband was born in HK therefore both my children can apply for the Chinese citizenships and PR? but I can only become PR and not citizen? They can have dual citizenships?

From what I know, in Canada if you give birth in the country then the baby automatically becomes citizen regardless of the parents' origin, I hope I didn't get this wrong too.

Cheers,
Yee
 
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