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congratulations to you anamaj..

feel that AF is coming soon and.. i am using the word 'depressed' to describe how i feel now. i have been keeping myself busy with other stuffs this month.. and ttc when i should be trying.. other times, i am just trying not to think about all this pregnancy stuffs..
yet why do i feel so down? what if i am never gonna have children?
arrgggh...
feel like lying in bed.. all day..
you see news of ppl abusing their children, why do ppl like that have children?
oh, my colleague did try to cheer me up though, she offered to bring her twins, 3 year boys, jump and wee on my bed..
she said that will help me get pregnant faster.. :)
 
reei....i'm so sorry to hear that you are so upset. would you consider chinese meds? I can't speak for others, but it really did work for me the first time around. i am going back on the meds again.
 
af did not come. i am now 5 days late. i had light spotting yesterday. took hpt this morning and it was negative. i am thinking if i should buy another hpt , maybe clearblue and try. i know i should wait at least 3 days before taking the hpt again..
anyone have this experience with hpt.. i mean u buy one type, it is negative, and another type turns out positive?
 
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mayc,

just bought the clearblue from watson, the one with two test in one box. just tested and i got a negative..
guess i'll try again on sunday morning.
:(
 
Reei, am sooo sorry. hang in there sweetie.

MayC, hope the Chinese meds are going down easier.

Well I had a strange month. Not sure when I was ovulating. Bought the David OPKs and never got a postive result. Hardly had any CM which didn't help. We only did the BD once. Hubby was too stressed with work and wasn't very cooperative. I'm not getting my hopes up this month. Will just wait and see.

Hope we get a few more pregnant mummies this month.

Congratulations Anamaj!

Babydust to all.
 
mayc, thanks.
i am actually not as upset as i expected myself to be.
nanzbier, thanks for your advice. i think i'll try naturally for another 8 months before going for tcm.
babydust to all of us.. :)
 
MayC,

Thanks for your reply. I signed up with one of the Fertility sites and started the OPK on the days it said I was fertile. First day was CD9 and thought it was a bit early. I tried for a couple more days and then gave up. Haven't started taking my temp yet. The charting looks so complicated and thought would be too stressful.

What do you do when your husband doesn't want to cooperate? Shame the milkman isn't an option here. :rolling

Your daughter sounds lovely. My LO actually doesn't want a sibling. She's quite happy being an only child. Isn't that odd?
 
Hi Girls

Back from the holiday, had the best time. Was on injectables this cycle as Clomid din't create the super-ovulation my FS is trying to achieve, went back to see her upon my return and no wonder my ovaries were hurting like mad. I had 5 or 6 big follicles and many smaller ones. So things looked good then and she gave me an HCG shot - although at the same time she suggested the small follies might be a sign of PCOS... I don't get it. I have never missed a period, I am size 8, no skin problems and no cysts on ovaries... but whatever, she put me on Metformin now. I am still not really convinced about this whole diabetes and PCOS story as nobody in my family is diabetic either.

Worse is that the next day I was meant to go for an IUI and on the day on a closer look it showed my ovaries got really enlarged with all the eggs in them so that they actually squeezed the uterus up and the IUI couldn't go ahead as she wasn't able to reach the uterus. So we just BDed with hubby that night instead.

After this I had four days of crazy pains in my abdomen, I couldn't move without feeling discomfort. My boobs were killing me and I felt sick on and off. Then suddenly on day 5 I woke up fine, not a single pain. It's now DPO7 for me and I feel nothing, just sore nipples but that's from the progesterone I am also taking.

To be honest I am not at my most positive right now. I did some reading on my thyroid antibodies and it seems that they do in fact cause quite a bit of problems in terms of fertility.

Everyone around me is falling preggers and I am starting to feel like I do not belong. I have the sweetest hubby but I have also been feeling a lot less sexy with all that is going on and the fact that it's proving to be a daunting long journey. It might sounds silly but I am really worried how it might impact my marriage in the long run... I know I should be more positive and believe it will happen, but you know how it gets.

I also stopped acupuncture as I realised the guy I used to go to was lazy and hopeless, I only found out as I now study acu myself. He also put up his prices recently to something like HK$750 which is just outrageous for the fact he does nothing but put you down and pins 8 needles in you without any closer exam! I will look into alternatives but just feeling a bit frustrated and directionless at this point.

MayC and TTC#2, I hope you will get some good news in the next few days. :flower: Reei, sorry to hear about the AF! :mad:

Have a good day Girls xx
 
brightstar,

sorry to hear about all these, that you are going through..
everyone around me is getting pregnant too,, have kids.. etc. i just console myself , well, they won't have enough sleep, not enough time.. bla.. bla.. bla..

gotta work now. take care and i hope u feel better soon.
 
Many girls should be around their testing time, how is everyone? Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

I am a no go for this month, had a very early m/c. Going for a totally natural cycle this month to get the body relatively back to normal. Which is good as I wouldn't be able to go through the whole thing again so early on.

What can I say, it's definitely a journey for us.

Hope you girls have better news!
 
Brightstar, am so sorry sweetie. Wish I could give you a big hug. Of course hubby finds you sexy. I know its hard but please stay positive. Taking a break from the drugs sounds like a good idea.

Today is CD 29, and you're right I should test. I actually did a HPT on Sat and it was negative. The last couple of months my cycle has been 25-27days. Will pick up another HPT on my way home if there's no sign of AF today.

:grouphug:
 
ovulation problems

Hi all you Moms and Moms-to-be out there...

I thought I'd share my own story with you ladies to give you hope, becaus I know everything will turn out all right for you all.

My husband and I tried for about 8-9 months before I became pregnant. It sounds like not a terribly long time, but it was excruciating for me because my body was not doing what it was "supposed to", namely OVULATE. I was with Dr. Dawkins inthe beginning and he prescribed Clomid, which I took for several cycles. However, the drug wasn't quite strong enough to make my follicles big enough to actually release an egg. So Dr. Dawkins sent me to his "fertility partner" Dr. Philip Ho who was simply the best. He is very cut-to-the-chase, no-nonsense and no-frilles (kinda serious and not big on gratuitous smiling) but when you're experiencing these problems, that is the kind of doctor you want! He was extremely knowledgeable and put me on injectibles right away (GonalF). He is also very patient and happy to answer any and all questions you have. Anyway, I took the daily injectibles for about 9 straight days, and on the final day he did a scan and found my follies were at about 20-21mm - ready for the HCG shot! I got it that day, hubby and i BD'd for the next few nights and I got pregnant that cycle. Then Dr. Ho sent me back to Dr. Dawkins (after "getting me pregnant"). I guess they have this type of arrangement between the two doctors. Makes sense. Dr Ho is a fertility specialist, Dr Dawkins is not (though both are great OBGNs).

I am 13 weeks pregnant today and all is well. So I'd like to recommend Dr. Philip Ho to you ladies experiencing fertility issues. His English is great (I don't speak a drop of Canto) and he knows what he is doing!!!! His nurse Kelly is the best ever, also extremely knowledgeable and happy to answer calls and questions at all hours.

Good luck to all of you. Hope my story helps a bit.
 
Dear Clowe,

Thanks for sharing. Can you please send Dr Dawkins and Dr Philip Ho contact details? Also, how much did u spend in all these treatments? Thanks.
 
Dr Ho can be reached at 2899 2293 and Dr. Dawkins at 2715 4577. Both can be easily "googled" for full contact info. Both are located in Central.

Note that Dr. Ho is more of the fertility specialist, Dr. D is only a general OBGN. He referred me to Dr Ho, who has the facilities required for slightly more complex cases. You can go directly to Dr. Ho.

Cost... sigh... I don't even want to calculate it all... I must have spent upwards of HK$20K all in, for all the fertility treatments over about 7 months, including all the scans, the shots, the meds, not to mention the consultation fees. Both doctors are at the very high end of the cost spectrum... Both charge about 900 per scan and 900 per consultation, something like that. So it's at least 1800 each time you go in for a visit, not counting the cost of the drugs. Both you get what you pay for, I suppose. And in the end our dream came true for us, so it was all worth it.

By the way, do you know what your "problem" is? Mine was ovulation so that was pretty easy in terms of diagnosis. Just had to get my system up and running. Are you positive you are ovulating? If so and you are still having problems, you should get an "x-ray" of your tubes to make sure they are not blocked. This is not a comfy procedure. They basically inject a blue dye into your womb through your cervix and then watch what happens on the xray to see if your tubes are okay. Dr. Ho suggested that this would have been the next step for me, if I had not gotten preg that first cycle on the GonalF shots. I would have been happy to do it.

Best of luck to you. Let me know if you need anything else at all.
 
TTC#2, so sorry to hear about the AF, I was thinking of you last night. Grrrr the horrible thing.

MayC, it's never over until the AF really arrives. What are your temps doing? Let us know how your hubby's results turn out. Good for you to finally get him over there :haha:


BTW Clowe I am really surprised for your quote of $20K for your 7 months treatment. I have just strated seeing a FS myself and I pay at least 20K a month! The first month was the worst as all the blood tests had to be done for initial evaluation, that month cost me close to 40K. At least in my case I pay in the same range as you did for a consultation and a scan, but then there are also charges for all the blood tests relating to various hormones etc - each visit costs at least 3.5K and with meds easily 8K. There are at least 3-4 visits a month. Oh should I mention my insurance doesn't cover any maternity related cost...

BTW, another note on charting. Mine always showed clear ovulation pattern etc, however my FS now thinks I still have a mild PCOS which causes slightly worse quality of the eggs I produce and therefore our struggle to get preggers. I don't have any normal symptoms of PCOS, just the blood tests over the past two months pointed out that I am borderline. I think also my LH levels were somewhat funny, also just a little but enough for the FS to want them different. So I am on metformin now which should help both the LH and the eggies.

Still, I am finding it hard to look forward at this point and will probably give myself a bit of a breathing space this month. As hubby correctly pointed out, it's not a race so I can relax for a few weeks.

x
 
Sorry about the temps, MayC :-((((

I know, the cost is quite astronomical. Can you try to get insurance now that would cover at least some of the cost should it come down to it? Also, there are some cheaper meds out there (like Clomid vs injectables, progesteron tablets vs. crinore gel), unfortunately some of them (Clomid) didn't work for me as I got very thin lining on it without the intended superovulation and as for progesterone, my FS didn't even offer the less expensive choice, she thinks crinone is the best even though it's definitely the most expensive.
 
oops, sorry brightstar, i meant US$20K... i'm still thinking in USD. yes the whole process is financially excrutiating just as much as as it is emotionally... and no insurance that i have ever come across covers fertility treatment. maternity coverage is one thing but fertility is one scary area where we are pretty much on our own financially...

MayC, please don't worry about your xray. i've heard it is not comfy but not painful either! i read up a LOT on it cuz i was sure it was going to be the next step for me. and most women said that it is invasive yes but it's not painful except for a bit of cramping AFTERWARDS. and it is such a worthwhile procedure because it will reveal a lot. so don't worry about the pain - i am a wimp also when it comes to pain so i understand how you feel, but seriously - i think you'll be just fine. and it only take a few minutes to complete. AND the results are in immediately!

good luck everyone... i wish i had discovered this forum while i was TTC'ing... but now i'm so happy to share whatever i can with you ladies.
 
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