sleep clinic from australia coming to HK

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1stimemum

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hi all, at my wits end and as most of us know, in countries like australia, they have family services where you can bring your child in for the day and they work with you to resolve sleep issues.

I"m trying to get one such clinic to come to Hong Kong. now, i'm not being biased but australians are not the most motivated and right now the clinic I'm speaking to is not that keen to travel.

I'm trying to persuade them that it will be worth their while. Are there any parents who will be keen to use them?

We will have to pool together for airfare, accommodation and we will all pay our respective consultation fees. I"m hoping if we get 5 families interested, they would be willing to travel.

Pls PM me if you are and we can discuss this privately. I'm not going to respond to questions on the thread as there will be too many.


the sleep clinic cost in Australia is about AUD500 for 7 hrs but they may charge us more.

thanks.
 
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sleep clinic from australia coming to HK
hi all, at my wits end and as most of us know, in countries like australia, they have family services where you can bring your child in for the day and they work with you to resolve sleep issues.

EDITED I"m trying to get one such clinic to come to Hong Kong. Right now the clinic I'm speaking to is not that keen to travel.

I'm trying to persuade them that it will be worth their while. Are there any parents who will be keen to use them?

We will have to pool together for airfare, accommodation and we will all pay our respective consultation fees. I"m hoping if we get 5 families interested, they would be willing to travel.

Pls PM me if you are and we can discuss this privately. I'm not going to respond to questions on the thread as there will be too many.


the sleep clinic cost in Australia is about AUD500 for 7 hrs but they may charge us more.

thanks.
 
There was a workshop last weekend in DB run by an Australian Lady. I spoke to someone who went and they said it was really good. I also know someone who bought the manual and is perhaps wanting to teach other parents. If you want the details send me a PM and I can put you in touch with her.
 
On the recommendation from others on this forum, I just consulted a lady named Tammy Fontana on sleep issues for my child. She runs a sleep clinic, but out of Singapore. And in fact, she is in the U.S. for the year. But we communicated via skype (she can also do telephone calls) and got follow up advice as the sleep training went on via email. I found her advice to be quite useful and though we still have some issues with the sleeping - we're already 12 days into the training - it has definitely progressively gotten better. Our son is on the older side (already 15 months) and Tammy had already told us it would take us longer to sleep train older babies. Anyways, she charges S$45/hour (@HK$251/hour), which is considerably cheaper than the Australian clinic (I think it may be cheaper than Annerley too). I found her to be helpful and very responsive though she is far away. Unfortunately, I think she is on vacation until early or middle of July. You could always try her out if you want. Check out her website Baby Sleep Fairy - Home.

Good luck!
 
futurehkmom,

I've also consulted tammy, unfortunately I am unable to carry out extinction. We tried for 1 night with disastrous results. 1.5hrs of screaming, wailing, Baby was completely DRENCHED in sweat, he threw up and SCRATCHED HIMSELF -toenails, back of leg.

i am now doing a modified version where i let him cry for about 10 mins before picking up and soothing. He cries alot less but still takes him 1.5hr to get to sleep. I modified it myself based on my guts.

Yes, i've read ALL the books, TRIED every form of shush, patting, routine, bed time routine there he. HE NEEDS TO BE ROCKED TO SLEEP.

I'm only day 3 into it. where are you at day 12?

my reason for wanting to try the australian sleep clinic is that I've had a friend use them on their 6mth old. and within 7 hours, all their issues resolved. Their child is now almost 2 and knows how to say, goodnight ,i'm sleepy now!!

annerley sleep clinic advises pretty much what all the books, sleep experts advocate btu they DO NOT go to your home and do it for you at this stage, I think i need someone who can execute; do the dirty work so to speak.

3nights of hearing my son cry is really getting to me, i no longer trust my own judgement.
 
I'm curious - what did they do for your friend's 6 mo. old that is different than what is in the books?

Also, I think Annerley actually does home consultations too, but I have no idea if that includes doing the dirty work (and if they would stay with you for 1.5 hours, as opposed to just their typical hour), but you could probably inquire.
 
its not all that different but they do spend 7 hours with you, making sure you dont deviate from the plan and i think having trained healthcare professionals do the dirty work makes it easier- at least for me.
 
Another option is to get a maternity nurse to come and spend the night at your house. They are trained professionals with extensive experience and can give advice on pretty much anything to do with babies AND do/help out the "dirty work";)

I had a maternity nurse for 2 nights to help out when my husband was away on business trip and I found it very helpful. She taught me how to settle my baby (she has been colicky and hard to settle at night). She also taught me different techniques to get her back to sleep if she wakes up too early. Besides giving the advice she of course acutally spent the nights with me and my baby and got to know he both of us, which made her advice much more useful.
 
1stimemum - So sorry you had such a hard time with the sleep training! It wasn't much fun for us either, but I have to say (fingers crossed) it is working. The first night we did it, my son cried for 2 hours!! Then he fell asleep. Actually my husband did the dirty work that night, though I heard a lot of the screaming and crying. Anyways, it's been about three weeks now and I'm happy to say that his sleeping has gotten much better. He still cries when we leave his room after we do the bedtime routine, but it's only for a few minutes and then he falls asleep by himself with no fuss. And he's also gone from waking up in the middle of the night and screaming to sleeping for a nine hour stretch last night before waking up! By that time, it was already 7:45am this morning and we let him get up. He still sleeps rather late and I need to start moving his bedtime up a little earlier, but I would also need to adjust his nap times so he doesn't sleep too much during the day...anyways, I'll probably start doing that a little later on. My son gets a total of about 12 hours of sleep a day, which Tammy says a 15 month old should be getting.

I agree with you though that the Extinction method is REALLY hard. It was really hard on me and if it wasn't for my husband's strong resolve and refusal to let me give up, I don't know if I could do it. Anyways - good luck with it! It really does work, I think, but it takes a lot of perseverence!
 
futurehkmom, thanks for the encouragement! in some good news. Leanne Mcnamara from Whisperscottage in Australia has agreed to come to Hong Kong from 9 aug - 14 aug. She's the director of whisperscottage and has been doing this for more than 7yrs now.

Please visit her website if you're interested - http://www.whisperscottage.com.au/

We already have 3 families who will be using her and she can see another 2 more babies during this time. This will be useful for those who have not been successful on their own and need a trained health care professional to assist them.

We just need contributions for hotel stay (share the cost), air tickets taken care of. She has a wealth of knowledge and its rare for us in HK to get such help. I highly encourage anyone interested to email me if you're interested.

For all the mums out there from australia/ uk where such clinics exist, i would really appreciate your help in explaining how these clinics work/ function. I know she works as my husband's colleague in Sydney highly recommended her.
 
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