Practical Pumping Tips Wanted

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thanka2

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I'm breastfeeding my second child who is 6-weeks-old today. Breastfeeding exclusively and I need to go back to work in 2 weeks.

I would like some practical advice on how to go about preparing to go back to work as far as pumping goes. Specifically--if I am trying to pump extra milk to freeze how to go about doing that. Should I be pumping after I breastfeed--for how long and how long would it take to actually be able to get say 200 ml extra from each pumping session? Any other pumping and storage tips are also appreciated.

With my first child (who is now 3+ years-old) I did pump a lot but it was a different situation. I pumped milk every day because I couldn't physically breastfeed him. I only actually breastfed at night after awhile but not because I was working but because I we had some issues that couldn't be resolved with him actually being at the breast. So, he was bottlefed breastmilk and that meant actually that I never had the luxury of storing milk because I could barely keep up with his demand on a day-to-day basis--especially because of some other health-related things. But, I never pumped at work and froze milk and stored it for it to be used while I was away.

This is what I think I'm going to try to do with my daughter. I plan to nurse her in the morning before I leave for work. Then I will pump mid-morning, nurse her again at lunch (we live near my workplace so my helper will bring her over on my lunch break), pump mid-afternoon and then nurse her when I return from work in the late afternoon and through the night.

She drinks quite a bit of milk in the mornings actually between 6 am and noon she probably nurses at least 5-6 times. She nurses less throughout the afternoon (maybe 3-4 times) and probably the least in the evenings.
 
Hi thanka,
The only pumping tip I have that I do when I actually get around to it(and no need anymore as little one now refuses a bottle as I waited too long to re-introduce but...), I find that if I pump while I'm breastfeeding it's best. It takes a bit of management but is possible, at least with a manual. This way I let down for sure and then lots of milk comes.
Otherwise what about pumping in the evening times when your girl doesn't want it and your milk is just sitting there.
 
Shenzhennifer said:
Hi thanka,
The only pumping tip I have that I do when I actually get around to it(and no need anymore as little one now refuses a bottle as I waited too long to re-introduce but...), I find that if I pump while I'm breastfeeding it's best. It takes a bit of management but is possible, at least with a manual. This way I let down for sure and then lots of milk comes.
Otherwise what about pumping in the evening times when your girl doesn't want it and your milk is just sitting there.
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He he he...pumping while I nurse probably won't work as my baby wiggles a lot and easily distracted (I can't just stick her on my breast and expect her to just sit there contentedly and drink unless she's asleep at night) so just the noise of the electric pump (no way I can use a manual one) will be too much for her. My electric pump has a letdown function that actually stimulates letdown before the pumping begins so that part should be okay.
 
Nursing 5 times in a morning sounds lot - I guess you are feeding " on demand" and don't mind comfort sucking. Would you consider getting her on a more scheduled feeding time so it would be easier to give her bottles when you are at work? eg instead of feeding like every hour now, get her to wait longer and longer between feeds.
And consider start pretending you are at work, ie follow the pump and nurse schedule you envision BEFORE you actually start working so you can make sure it works instead of leaving your helper with a crying baby that she have no way to console. This way you can also know in advance how much milk you can pump and tryout different ways to help pumping. My friend said looking at picture of the baby helps.
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Nursing 5 times in the morning for a 6 week old baby is totally normal, it is not a lot for that baby (although it might be more or less than other babies the same age). Thanka2 it sounds like you have a well established milk supply by now so hopefully you should not have the issues you had with your first (in terms of not being able to store some extra). Also as you obviously realise the more you can give your baby the breast and/or pump the better your supply with be. So your plan of feeding morning, lunchtime and evening/night and pumping in between sounds really good and should really help you in keeping up your supply.

I can totally see why pumping at the same time as breastfeeding would not be really practical and distracting for your baby, so your plan sounds ideal in your circumstances. Your may find that her feeding pattern changes as she adjusts to having a combination of bottle and breast eg. she might start feeding more in the evenings and at night when you are home, that's quite common. But babies feeding patterns continally change and adapt as they grow anyway so who knows? Best of luck with it and hope it all goes smoothly.
 
Biggie said:
Nursing 5 times in a morning sounds lot - I guess you are feeding " on demand" and don't mind comfort sucking. Would you consider getting her on a more scheduled feeding time so it would be easier to give her bottles when you are at work? eg instead of feeding like every hour now, get her to wait longer and longer between feeds.
And consider start pretending you are at work, ie follow the pump and nurse schedule you envision BEFORE you actually start working so you can make sure it works instead of leaving your helper with a crying baby that she have no way to console. This way you can also know in advance how much milk you can pump and tryout different ways to help pumping. My friend said looking at picture of the baby helps.
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Well...I guess you could say I'm nursing on demand and I have no problem doing that right now. I may have mistyped because she does her feedings over about a 10-hour period. Also, it's not comfort sucking at all. I totally know what that is and not a big fan so if I sense it's going on, I break suction our session ends for the time being. She is 6 weeks old and weighs 5.5 kilos. She has been gaining weight really well as she 3.965 kilos at birth.

Formula and bottle fed babies get full and stay full but not so much with babies just taking breastmilk directly from the breast so feeding frequently is not a bad thing at all. And it keeps my milk supply in tip-top shape as well. I don't think that 5 times during the morning is a big deal because she goes to sleep for the night at around 2 am with a feeding and then every 3-5 hours I feed her--not really "on demand" as she doesn't actually demand to be fed but I can notice her start to stir and root so I feed her and this keeps me from waking up with hugely engorged breasts so it's a win-win situation for both of us. And I get great sleep so I'm not complaining at all--I mean, having a six-week-old who pretty much sleeps for 10 hours at a time with very little disturbances inbetween--rock on! So maybe between 2 am and noon she feeds those 5 times but she's also sleeping at this time (babies are cool in the fact that they can sleep and eat at the same time--what a skill!). We're still working on her schedule but I'm not willing to stress myself out over it and I totally am not the type to try to put a baby less than 3 months old into a tight schedule.

Yes, I think I will be practicing the pumping schedule starting soon. Thankfully, my helper is AMAZING with our baby and our baby is very mellow. Even if the baby is crying because she wants to eat, our helper has the ability to sooth her for a long time. Also, we know the baby will eventually take a bottle because we tried it a few weeks ago. I'm sure pumping at work won't take a lot too much--probably a welcome relief to be able to pump rather than be toting around two big "milk bags." :P
 
I pumped 75% of my milk for my baby who is now 6 months old. I just finished and he is now on formula. my schedule was this:

1st of the morning - pumped as i had the most milk
2nd feed: pumped
3rd feed: nursed
4th feed: pump
5th feed: pump/nursed if he needed more
i pumped one more time before i went to sleep at night
night feed: nursed

this schedule worked well for me and allowed me to build up a supply in the freezer. also, since you are going back to work soon, replacing just 1 feed with formula at the start of building up your supply then stopping it once you feel your supply in the freezer is adequate.
 
southside852 said:
I pumped 75% of my milk for my baby who is now 6 months old. I just finished and he is now on formula. my schedule was this:

1st of the morning - pumped as i had the most milk
2nd feed: pumped
3rd feed: nursed
4th feed: pump
5th feed: pump/nursed if he needed more
i pumped one more time before i went to sleep at night
night feed: nursed

this schedule worked well for me and allowed me to build up a supply in the freezer. also, since you are going back to work soon, replacing just 1 feed with formula at the start of building up your supply then stopping it once you feel your supply in the freezer is adequate.
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Thanks, southside. It seems by your schedule that you weren't working outside the home because you had the ability to nurse in the afternoons. Am I reading this right?

Unfortunately, I don't think I can replace any of her feedings with formula right now because we tried to give her some formula one time and she got incredibly sick--it caused so much tummy problems that she was screaming and in pain for over two days until she was finally able to clear all the formula from her system. It was really miserable. So, I guess I'd better get to work on putting some of that milk in storage. :)
 
yes, i was home for the first 6 months. . . have you tried mixing formula and BM? My first son had reflux so he was very sensitive and we used Cow & Gate's Pepti Junior while in HK which we had no problems with . . .
 
One important thing to remember about building up a stock of milk for returning to work is that it tends to be difficult to collect much milk while you are breastfeeding as well. So if you only get a small amount don't worry this is normal. You can add all the small amounts you manage to collect together until you have the amount you want. Once you return to work you will be expressing the milk instead of feeding the baby and so collecting the milk will be much easier.

It is often suggested to store the milk in small quantities rather than large ones. This way if your baby doesn't want much milk you don't waste it as once the milk has been given to the baby you need to throw away any that she doesn't drink. One suggestion to keep milk frozen in small quantities is to freeze it in ice cube trays and then store the small frozen cubes of ice in freezer bags. Remember to date the bags correctly.

Human milk will keep for up to seven days in the fridge, however, and fresh milk is much easier to manage than frozen milk. So I would consider a plan where you collect the milk one day to feed to the baby the next and try to avoid freezing the milk if possible.

As for the best time to pump your milk - the best time is when you find it easiest. Many mothers find that first thing in the morning is the easiest time. They feel full and the baby often only wants one side so you can pump the other. As someone else suggested pumping one side while the baby drinks the other side helps with the let down but can be difficult to manage unless you are an Indian goddess with multiple pairs of arms.

Although your baby drinks many times in the morning at the moment she is likely to drink more from the bottle and thus last longer between feeds. Babies tend to over eat when drinking from bottles, even when it is breast milk in the bottle.

La Leche League in Hong Kong has a special forum for working mothers who return to work. You may be able to find more tips about pumping from these mothers, http://www.lllhk.org/Englishindex.html

Best wishes,
SARAH

Sarah Hung IBCLC
www.lotuslactation.com
 
Think storing in ice cube trays is really a good idea. For me I put them in those storage cubes (with lids) for baby puree/food. The ones I got said it is suitable for breast milk if I'm not wrong. You can use pencil and label accordingly. Once it become frozen, I just pop them out and double bag it in a zip lock bag. I froze then in 20/40ml.
 
Sarah_Lotus said:
One important thing to remember about building up a stock of milk for returning to work is that it tends to be difficult to collect much milk while you are breastfeeding as well. So if you only get a small amount don't worry this is normal. You can add all the small amounts you manage to collect together until you have the amount you want. Once you return to work you will be expressing the milk instead of feeding the baby and so collecting the milk will be much easier.

It is often suggested to store the milk in small quantities rather than large ones. This way if your baby doesn't want much milk you don't waste it as once the milk has been given to the baby you need to throw away any that she doesn't drink. One suggestion to keep milk frozen in small quantities is to freeze it in ice cube trays and then store the small frozen cubes of ice in freezer bags. Remember to date the bags correctly.

Human milk will keep for up to seven days in the fridge, however, and fresh milk is much easier to manage than frozen milk. So I would consider a plan where you collect the milk one day to feed to the baby the next and try to avoid freezing the milk if possible.

As for the best time to pump your milk - the best time is when you find it easiest. Many mothers find that first thing in the morning is the easiest time. They feel full and the baby often only wants one side so you can pump the other. As someone else suggested pumping one side while the baby drinks the other side helps with the let down but can be difficult to manage unless you are an Indian goddess with multiple pairs of arms.

Although your baby drinks many times in the morning at the moment she is likely to drink more from the bottle and thus last longer between feeds. Babies tend to over eat when drinking from bottles, even when it is breast milk in the bottle.

La Leche League in Hong Kong has a special forum for working mothers who return to work. You may be able to find more tips about pumping from these mothers, http://www.lllhk.org/Englishindex.html

Best wishes,
SARAH

Sarah Hung IBCLC
www.lotuslactation.com
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Awesome advice and encouragement, Sarah! Thanks so much.

Well, I feel pretty good. I started pumping in earnest yesterday. I am recovering from mastitis at the moment (BTW, for those who are BF, I recommend that if your letdown reflex starts to hurt when it initially didn't, check for plugged ducts--this started happening to me about 10 days ago and by 3 days ago I had already developed mastitis) so nursing and pumping a lot as well as fluids and bedrest are what I've been doing.

I pumped yesterday for about 10 minutes after I had fed my daughter because she didn't want the other side (the affected side) and I knew I needed to drain it. In total, I pumped twice after feedings yesterday (second time only for about 5 minutes) and collected about 80 ml (3 ounces) in total.

Today I pumped after a feeding in the mid-afternoon and was able to collect 120 ml (4 ounces). I will pump again this evening before we go to sleep just to keep my breasts from getting too full while I sleep.

Thankfully, even though I pump and then she might nurse a few minutes later, there hasn't been any hangup with my letdown so far so that was what I was worried about actually.

At this rate, next week when I have to go back to work, I'll have at least 36 ounces of milk in storage. I am going to start freezing the milk I pump now to be used next Thursday when I resume working but will try to avoid freezing when I'm actually back at work.

The one time that we gave my daughter a bottle she downed 6 ounces of breastmilk in one sitting (talk about overeating!) so I am using that as a gauge--if I can have at least 6 ounces of breastmilk available for each feeding she will need in the first couple of days back at work, we should be okay.

Thanks again everyone for the tips!
 
taysty said:
Think storing in ice cube trays is really a good idea. For me I put them in those storage cubes (with lids) for baby puree/food. The ones I got said it is suitable for breast milk if I'm not wrong. You can use pencil and label accordingly. Once it become frozen, I just pop them out and double bag it in a zip lock bag. I froze then in 20/40ml.
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Hey, tasty, where did you buy the storage cubes with lids? I would love to buy a tray to use for freezing breastmilk. Do you remember how much you paid? Thanks!
 
I think is $70 for 6. Can hold up to 40ml max. Lid is very tight and pop up very easily. The brand is brother max you can check on the web first. I got mine at bumps to babes. You better call them to see if they had stock before going as i know you live quite far.
 
taysty said:
I think is $70 for 6. Can hold up to 40ml max. Lid is very tight and pop up very easily. The brand is brother max you can check on the web first. I got mine at bumps to babes. You better call them to see if they had stock before going as i know you live quite far.
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Thanks so much! Will check.
 
hey thanka,

I pumped & fed when i went back to work after my first bub. I can't remember exactly, but my schedule went something like this:
(btw, i was away from home from approximately 6:30am - 4:30pm)

early morning (4:30ish) - dream fed one side, pumped the other
at work - pumped twice (stored in bottles in a cooler bag in the fridge)
after work - fed as necessary
before bed (11ish) - pumped (can't remember if i did one or both sides)

I may have pumped one other time after coming home from work, but i can't remember. I had a supply in the freezer, but tried to use the previous day's yield before freezing whenever possible. I often didn't pump much (or at all...) on the weekend, so dipped into the freezer supply then! I had a good supply, so could usually pump enough for the next day.

I'm guessing i'll go back to a similar schedule when i return to work in a couple of weeks.

hope it works out for you.
 
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