No cry sleep solution

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Could anyone tell me where I can buy this book 'No Cry Sleep Solution' Elizabeth Pantely?
I still rock my 11 month old to sleep day & night and she wakes up once in the night around 2- 2:30am. Earlier it might have been because she was hungry but now its because she doesn't know how to put herself back to sleep. I am totally against CIO, so if there are mums out there who have successfully tried something to help their babies sleep on their own or ways to make them to sleep throughout the night please share your experience with me. Thanks :)
 
I have the book for toddlers. I haven't really used many of the ideas yet, I'm still 'researching' by tracking my son's sleep habits. But from what I can tell, the goal is not really sleeping through the night, as even adults wake up a few times a night.

If your 11mnth old is only waking up once a night (presumably to feed?) then your child is technically 'sleeping through the night.' This would mean a 6hr stetch of sleep? That's great!
 
My baby used to wake up every 2 hours and would need to be nursed back to sleep. One night, I put my baby in her cot and kept my hand near/on her hand. She woke up every hour and cried for half hour each time but I didn't pick her up. The second night she woke up once and cried for 20 minutes and I sat by her side and touched her hand. That was it. After that, she slept through the night (6.45pm-6am)and now all i do is put my hand on her back at bedtime, she settles into her favourite position and falls asleep. If I take my hand off her back before she falls asleep,she pops her head up to see where I am. This is fine with me as she falls asleep in 5 mins (started off with 40 mins and slowly decreased) and I find it endearing that she wants me there as she falls asleep. Any change will naturally involve a certain amount of crying and I understood, although it was tough, that that was why she was crying. I wasn't comfortable with leaving my baby in a room alone to cry it out so felt that this, for me and my little one, was the best option. Not sure if this is something you would wish to consider?
 
that's so special (that your daughter pops her head up to make sure you're still there)! those are the things that make parenting worth it :)
 
Geomum, It is available in Dymocks. I am also willing to sell my copy if pickup is convenient. I am against CIO as well specially for the first 3 months and tried Elizabeth Pantley in this last month, but haven't been successful. I was able to increase his nap time though- it worked like a charm. I am still keeping a log as she suggested and a rough pattern emerged which was an eye opener. So I have been tweaking this pattern with Gina Ford routines- I feel like a closet CIO person....:(.

Finally, the baby sleeps great but he wants my lap and patting to go to sleep. I am planning to follow similar to putput's method. I keep postponing the start because I know I will need to follow through and rough it out for a few days....
 
putput - i will try your method this Fri as my husband doesn't need to work on Sat.

my baby is now 17 days old and she's been crying a few times during the night even after the feed. she stops crying when i pick her up and starts looking at me. can't leave her to cry for more than 15 mins as my husband has to work the next day

btw, how old is your baby?
 
Hi babyc,

17 days is very young so I'm not sure this will work for her right now. She's used to being all snuggled up in mummy's womb so my guess is she needs comforting and security right now. If she's crying after her feed, it may be discomfort caused by gas. In our case, I found out that my daughter had reflux and so she used to cry from 6-11.30 every night and the pain was so bad I would have to hold her the whole time. I was so worn out but after a couple of months, her pain settled although the reflux continued till she was 7 months old. Sleep training is perhaps better when the child is a little older, some say 4 months, some say 6 months onwards. Can I suggest swaddling your baby and maybe putting your hand on her stomach rather than back to comfort her, if you decide not to hold her at night after feeds? If you decide to hold her, I guarantee you are not putting her in bad habits as she's too young for this to be a problem. My daughter is now 10 months old. I started when she was 8 months old. I did teach her to put herself to sleep when she was around 4 months by swaddling and patting her stomach but her reflux was such a problem for her that it would wake her up and to stop her from vomiting, i would have to pick her up. I then sleep trained again at 8 months. Hope this helps?
 
thanks putput

i decided to hold my baby during the night, as you said, she is only 17 days old and is too young to be sleep trained

i usually hold my baby for 20 mins and she will be asleep and i will put her back to the moses basket. she normally wakes up 3 times during the night.
 
Thanks everyone for your replies. Koan you are right she does sleep for 5-6 hrs at one go, so basically she is sleeping through the night. I think she might be waking up due to wet daiper, I change her diaper and she sleeps well afterwards. Do all babies need a daiper change at night? Putput I co-sleep with my daughter and she gets very loud and angry when I don't pick her up. And on other occassions she starts crawling on the bed and pats me to wake me up.... very funny, isn't it? She doesn't know how to put herself to sleep and I don't know how to teach her. Read this article today which was informative:
http://www.babycenter.com/0_baby-sleep-training-no-tears-methods_1497581.bc?page=1
BabyC your baby needs all the cuddles you can give him at 17 days. He is too little to start sleep training.
 
She may be waking up due to wet diaper or it may be to get a little time with you. How do you put her back to sleep afterwards? I think, although it is harder, you may still be able to follow the same principles. Even if she gets angry and loud, you could tell her she has to sleep (I realised last night that my 10 month old now understands the word) and pat her or keep your hand close by but don't pick her up. Even if she crawls over to you and pats you (sounds so cute!) maybe don't pick her up but repeat 'it's sleep time' and pat/touch hand. She will protest as this is a change to what she's used to. She may cry as she's not getting the reaction she has come to expect but she's not getting hurt in anyway and you've fulfilled your wish not to have her crying in a room separate to yours. We co-slept till my daughter was 8 months old and then moved her into her own room only because I knew that my husband's snoring would make it very difficult for her to be able to learn to go back to sleep! The other thing I found is that my daughter woke up whenever I faced her, and even in the cot (when it was in our room) when I turned and faced her way she would wake up. I think it may have something to do with the smell of BM! If you do decide to follow this method, it'll take a while but hopefully it'll work if you're able to stay consistent and don't buckle under the pressure!! Easier said than done, I know!
 
Just remembered something I did when I sleep trained my daughter when we were co-sleeping. We were on holiday (she was 7months) and I was just experimenting in preparation for when we return so I could start formal sleep training. I would put her down and she would roll around. She would then start to get sleepy. Then she would make her way over to me and I would touch her hand. At some point she would get agitated so I would pick her up, cuddle her and when she was calm, put her straight back down next to me. This maybe happened 2-3 times maximum. Around 45 minutes later, she would fall asleep herself. Over time this will shorten. Now, I knew we would have to move her cot into another room and start training her all over again when we returned from our holiday but it gave me the confidence to know that she could put herself to sleep. I know I originally suggested not to pick her up but if you find this method works better for you and your daughter then you may want to do this instead. If you find that your daughter gets more agitated by being picked up and put back down then I suggest you don't pick her up at all. I hope this helps.
 
Geomum, my son needs his diaper changed about 5 nights out of 7.

I cosleep too. If DS wakes up and wants milk he just rolls over and latches on. :lovedface
 
Same with my daughter, she just latches on :) But what happens when we have to wean them?
Koan said:
Geomum, my son needs his diaper changed about 5 nights out of 7.

I cosleep too. If DS wakes up and wants milk he just rolls over and latches on. :lovedface
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I don't have any plans to wean my son. He'll stop when he wants. For now I'm just cherishing every feeding; the little giggles, boobie pats and when he signs for milk then claps with excitement. Even if it means waking up 5x a night. *yawn* :wink:
 
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