Am 38 and have had 3 unsuccessful IUIs using gonadotropins over last 5 months. Now its time to move to ivf. Can anyone recommend a good dr in HK? My current dr is Dr Philip Ho in New World Tower in Central but I'm not sure if he's top notch in ivf. Also is it true its about hk$70k per attempt?
IVF specialists in HK?
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I would suggest Dr Derek Lo.He is in Pacific House, Queens Rd Central. He specializes in infertility and I personally know of many couples that he has helped.
He also recommends patients to the infertility clinic at Queen Mary Hospital for those who need subsidized IVF. I am not sure what his charges are specifically for IVF, but I know from my own experience, he is definitely one of the most reasonable Ob Gyns around.
Furthermore, he is a HK expert in his field and he has a very genuine, caring and sincere attitude to his patients. He gives a lot of time to answer queries.
I recommend him to couples who have fertility challenges.
He also recommends patients to the infertility clinic at Queen Mary Hospital for those who need subsidized IVF. I am not sure what his charges are specifically for IVF, but I know from my own experience, he is definitely one of the most reasonable Ob Gyns around.
Furthermore, he is a HK expert in his field and he has a very genuine, caring and sincere attitude to his patients. He gives a lot of time to answer queries.
I recommend him to couples who have fertility challenges.
rani
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Hi Hoping4B,
I've recently met a few other couples who've had success under Dr Derek Lo's care. One with twins!
His contact info is posted in our resources directory.
http://www.geobaby.com/resources/Hong_Kong/Health/Doctors/Gynecologists/index.html
I've recently met a few other couples who've had success under Dr Derek Lo's care. One with twins!
His contact info is posted in our resources directory.
http://www.geobaby.com/resources/Hong_Kong/Health/Doctors/Gynecologists/index.html
andrewwork
Registered User
Check in with the Women's Clinic in the Central Building. Dr. Milton Leong did the first test tube babies in Asia (just had her 20th birthday) and still does research with McGill University in Montreal on IVF. He was involved in organising a recent Asia wide conference on the topic and is definitely top notch. My wife and I went to the clinic for all our prenatal and were thrilled. The 4D ultrasound was truly amazing. The number is 2523-3007.
IVF is very much a "luck" thing. You need a doctor who is understanding, caring and able to do the right job. A top notch IVF specialist does not really give you a higher chance to get pregnant.
Many IVF specialist will tell you how high their successful rate is. But how many times would you really go through?! It is very much a luck and fate matter.
One of the problems going to a very "famous" IVF specialist is that he does not really have the time to go through details of a very complicated process with you. Bear in mind that, IVF is a very stressful and draining process, both physically and mentally. You stand a better chance if you are more relaxed and comfortable during the process with a doctor who really "cares".
Dr. Derek Lo is a very caring doctor. He always explain everything he does in detail and the costs are very reasonable.
Dr. Milton Leung owns the IVF Centre at HK Sanatorium. He is a very busy person. Definitely top notch but ...
QMH has a very good IVF program and the fees are reasonable. You would need a referral letter. There are some inconvenience going to QMH but they do not do it for money. The team are very caring and professional.
My best wishes and good luck.
Many IVF specialist will tell you how high their successful rate is. But how many times would you really go through?! It is very much a luck and fate matter.
One of the problems going to a very "famous" IVF specialist is that he does not really have the time to go through details of a very complicated process with you. Bear in mind that, IVF is a very stressful and draining process, both physically and mentally. You stand a better chance if you are more relaxed and comfortable during the process with a doctor who really "cares".
Dr. Derek Lo is a very caring doctor. He always explain everything he does in detail and the costs are very reasonable.
Dr. Milton Leung owns the IVF Centre at HK Sanatorium. He is a very busy person. Definitely top notch but ...
QMH has a very good IVF program and the fees are reasonable. You would need a referral letter. There are some inconvenience going to QMH but they do not do it for money. The team are very caring and professional.
My best wishes and good luck.
My first child was an IVF baby. I think the success rate depends on the laboratory and the doctor. The doctor is there to take out your matured eggs and put the fertilized egg back into your uterus. He is also responsible for monitoring your level of fertility drugs and making sure you have a good number of mature eggs.
The lab provides the environment for successful fertilisation. Also, you need fresh sperm, not ones that have been in a jar for some time waiting to get to the laboratory for washing (or whatever you call that process)
Also, I had blastocysts put back which are 4-5 day old fertilized eggs rather than a 1-2 day old that they normally do.
I tried 2-3 IUIs in Hong Kong (all unsuccessful and expensive) and I went to Sydney IVF (www.sivf.com.au) for my treatment and was successful first time. The nurses are great (you see the doctor only 1-2 times but the nurses all the time for your monitoring and they give the doctor the results and the doctor then advises whether your drugs should increase or decrease or remain the same) .. I think they have one of the highest success rates. Their surgery and laboratory are in the same building. They accept overseas patients too. You really need only be there for 2 weeks for each treatment.
Good luck!
The lab provides the environment for successful fertilisation. Also, you need fresh sperm, not ones that have been in a jar for some time waiting to get to the laboratory for washing (or whatever you call that process)
Also, I had blastocysts put back which are 4-5 day old fertilized eggs rather than a 1-2 day old that they normally do.
I tried 2-3 IUIs in Hong Kong (all unsuccessful and expensive) and I went to Sydney IVF (www.sivf.com.au) for my treatment and was successful first time. The nurses are great (you see the doctor only 1-2 times but the nurses all the time for your monitoring and they give the doctor the results and the doctor then advises whether your drugs should increase or decrease or remain the same) .. I think they have one of the highest success rates. Their surgery and laboratory are in the same building. They accept overseas patients too. You really need only be there for 2 weeks for each treatment.
Good luck!
Dr.Milton Leung
The overall cost of IVF does add up (I wouldn't be surprised if it totalled over $70K given all the injections before and after the actual procedure).
I agree that I wouldn't go after a "famous" doctor, but it is a draining emotional and physical process so I'd like my doctor to have the best technical capabilties possible.
I highly recommend Dr. Milton Leung. Can't say he has the best bedside manner, and he is definitely from the old school, but he keeps up with the technical advances, doing things which are relatively new even in the US, and has a high success rate.
The overall cost of IVF does add up (I wouldn't be surprised if it totalled over $70K given all the injections before and after the actual procedure).
I agree that I wouldn't go after a "famous" doctor, but it is a draining emotional and physical process so I'd like my doctor to have the best technical capabilties possible.
I highly recommend Dr. Milton Leung. Can't say he has the best bedside manner, and he is definitely from the old school, but he keeps up with the technical advances, doing things which are relatively new even in the US, and has a high success rate.
I am 40 years old and have a 3 and half years old son. I am trying to get pregnant for second child about 2 years BUT nothing happen.....and planning to try IVF direction, could you please email me Dr. Lo's telphone number and what are the fees?
My email is (to avoid getting spammed pls exchange email addresses via PM)
Thank you!
My email is (to avoid getting spammed pls exchange email addresses via PM)
Thank you!
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rani
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DiscoveryBay,
Dr Derek Lo's contact info is here:
http://www.geobaby.com/directory/ho...ss/doctors/gynecologists/dr-derek-lo/details/
He's really a wonderful Dr, hope he's able to help you.
Best of luck!
Rani
Dr Derek Lo's contact info is here:
http://www.geobaby.com/directory/ho...ss/doctors/gynecologists/dr-derek-lo/details/
He's really a wonderful Dr, hope he's able to help you.
Best of luck!
Rani
Yes, I do agree with ariel that "IVF is very much a "luck" thing. You need a doctor who is understanding, caring and able to do the right job. A top notch IVF specialist does not really give you a higher chance to get pregnant."
Successful rate is really just a number game. Some clinic just discard patient with low chance of success and hence make their successful rate look good.
I think people sometime just believe too much on fertility treatment.
In fact, the most important criteria for successful pregnancy is (1) egg quality (2) sperm quality (3) uterus enviroment. Fertility doctor cannot really improve (1) and (2) that much. For 3, the implantation part, NO doctor in the world can have control of it.
I also think I doctor who give u the "suitable" treatment is more important.
I saw the top notch doctor that some of you mentioned before. Yes, may be he is knowlegable but I don't think he really propose me with the correct treatment. As he is so busy to entertain that many patient on the queue. He just give me "standard treatment". Which end up wasting my time and money. Since he has so many patient, he forget my case history unless i remind him. For another less famous doctor, he gave me a tailor treatment plan right from day one.
Yes latest technology will help. But it does not apply for all patient too. For instance, IVM, yes, it is a so-called new technolgy but if you are not suffering form Polycystic ovary Syndrome, it is of no use to you. So a doctor know more technology does not neccessary be beneficial for your particular case.
Doctor can help. But for fertility issue, it is really more matter of luck and chance. A doctor can maximize what you have but cannot create things that u dont have. For stimuation drugs, they can use different drugs but have no control on your responds. Some ppl have poor respond and produce not much more follicle, for those who have better respond who produce more folicle doesn't mean they will all carry egg and all get fertilized.
In short, a doctor who have heart and know who to treat is better than busy doctor who don't even remember your name and your history.
Also top notch doctor is expensive for a less famous doctor who charge less, you probably can have more trial attempt, which may even give you a better chance.
Successful rate is really just a number game. Some clinic just discard patient with low chance of success and hence make their successful rate look good.
I think people sometime just believe too much on fertility treatment.
In fact, the most important criteria for successful pregnancy is (1) egg quality (2) sperm quality (3) uterus enviroment. Fertility doctor cannot really improve (1) and (2) that much. For 3, the implantation part, NO doctor in the world can have control of it.
I also think I doctor who give u the "suitable" treatment is more important.
I saw the top notch doctor that some of you mentioned before. Yes, may be he is knowlegable but I don't think he really propose me with the correct treatment. As he is so busy to entertain that many patient on the queue. He just give me "standard treatment". Which end up wasting my time and money. Since he has so many patient, he forget my case history unless i remind him. For another less famous doctor, he gave me a tailor treatment plan right from day one.
Yes latest technology will help. But it does not apply for all patient too. For instance, IVM, yes, it is a so-called new technolgy but if you are not suffering form Polycystic ovary Syndrome, it is of no use to you. So a doctor know more technology does not neccessary be beneficial for your particular case.
Doctor can help. But for fertility issue, it is really more matter of luck and chance. A doctor can maximize what you have but cannot create things that u dont have. For stimuation drugs, they can use different drugs but have no control on your responds. Some ppl have poor respond and produce not much more follicle, for those who have better respond who produce more folicle doesn't mean they will all carry egg and all get fertilized.
In short, a doctor who have heart and know who to treat is better than busy doctor who don't even remember your name and your history.
Also top notch doctor is expensive for a less famous doctor who charge less, you probably can have more trial attempt, which may even give you a better chance.
Getting Desperate
I agree with what Ruby06 is saying. I also have been to the "top-notch" IVF specialist but it hasn't been quite working. I was pregnant in my second attempt using frozen eggs from the first time, however the foetus just did not grow after 8 weeks.
The experience gave me encouragement to keep doing the treatments but it seems that after 2 more fresh rounds, the no. of eggs that get successfully fertilised have significantly deteriorated to 3 of average quality (they used to be v good) with no spare eggs good enough for frozen keep. My doctor said I have PCOS, but he has not conducted any test on me and i have been taking Glucophage for the last 2 months already. He has never mentioned IVM before. There is no parameter on whether Glucophage works or not, besides the fact that the egg quality seems to be deteriorating. On ultrasound viewing before retrieval, they reacted well with Gonal F with desirable sizes, and the problem with the quality only surfaces after fertilisation, I was told.
I am getting desperate at the moment as I have just reached 40. I see myself as on the young side of 40 as I used to lead an active life (before turning into a tub of lard after the treatments). I don't usually take no for an answer and I am determined to keep trying. But I think that I should change my doctor as I don't see he has been doing anything special/tailor-made for me as I have been taking the same medicine/injection all this time. Even if there is nothing that doctors can do, I don't feel that I am getting the attention as the clock is ticking.
I am seeing Troy Sing on the TCM side but it is not clear to me on how much the quality of the eggs can be improved and how it can be monitored.
Can anyone suggest what I should do ? I know that I have to accept that my age is not working for me, but I believe that if I take my action plan correctly, there should be still be hope.
I agree with what Ruby06 is saying. I also have been to the "top-notch" IVF specialist but it hasn't been quite working. I was pregnant in my second attempt using frozen eggs from the first time, however the foetus just did not grow after 8 weeks.
The experience gave me encouragement to keep doing the treatments but it seems that after 2 more fresh rounds, the no. of eggs that get successfully fertilised have significantly deteriorated to 3 of average quality (they used to be v good) with no spare eggs good enough for frozen keep. My doctor said I have PCOS, but he has not conducted any test on me and i have been taking Glucophage for the last 2 months already. He has never mentioned IVM before. There is no parameter on whether Glucophage works or not, besides the fact that the egg quality seems to be deteriorating. On ultrasound viewing before retrieval, they reacted well with Gonal F with desirable sizes, and the problem with the quality only surfaces after fertilisation, I was told.
I am getting desperate at the moment as I have just reached 40. I see myself as on the young side of 40 as I used to lead an active life (before turning into a tub of lard after the treatments). I don't usually take no for an answer and I am determined to keep trying. But I think that I should change my doctor as I don't see he has been doing anything special/tailor-made for me as I have been taking the same medicine/injection all this time. Even if there is nothing that doctors can do, I don't feel that I am getting the attention as the clock is ticking.
I am seeing Troy Sing on the TCM side but it is not clear to me on how much the quality of the eggs can be improved and how it can be monitored.
Can anyone suggest what I should do ? I know that I have to accept that my age is not working for me, but I believe that if I take my action plan correctly, there should be still be hope.