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Monste

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Hi, I'm 36 and moved to Hong Kong 2 years ago. During our time here we have completed 2 IUI's and 3 IVF cycles (1 fresh and 2 frozen) all have ended up negative :(

I just found out yesterday my last try was negative, and each time I always wish there were people to speak to about it.....does anyone know of any groups I can get in touch with or if anyone wants to equally have some one to chat to who is in a similar boat please get in touch


Thanks
 
Hi Monste

I've been through the IVF route so I know what you're going through - and it's a hard slog. I'm sure you've been given lots of advise etc. Are you with the same doc for all the treatment? Perhaps you should consider going to a different one. It might help to have a different lab...

I'm not currently in the same boat as you as I'm now 22 weeks through IVF but would be happy to recommend my doc or meet for a chat.
 
Hi MiniB
Congratulations....wonderful news for u....how long had u been trying.

I am at same clinic for all treatment, my iui was done by one doc who passed me to his collegue for IVF as it was his expert field. I suppose reason I don't want to move is because I have to go through all the checks etc again, while sticking means I can get on with next try - am I being silly thinking like this?

Who is your doctor if u don't mind me asking.....
Meeting for chat would be good if you don't mind....nice to speak to someone who have lived my experience and ended with great results
 
Hi Monste

We had been trying for about 2.5 years and went through 2 cycles of IVF.

My IVF doctor is Dr Tracy Yeung at Hong Kong Reproductive Health Centre. She used to work at Queen Mary's infertility centre and I think she still consults there too.

I'll send you a PM with my contact details so we can arrange getting together for a chat.
 
Hi Monste,

I am going through my first IVF cycle after two failed IUIs. I'm due to get a 5-day blastocyst transferred, and am terrified of the 2 week wait!!

It would be helpful to share experiences on our IVF journey :)

Have you tried fertility acupuncture alongside IVF? I hear it helps. Also, when are you planning on trying another cycle?
 
Hi rainbowbrite

I have been doing acupuncture....I'm not great with needles but once they are in it's pretty stress free. I'm not sure how much it helps but happy to try anything....also good way to chill out for a hour....I'd recommend my accupunctuist she is lovely....Dr Helen he at London medical clinic in central

Il pm u....
 
Hi All,

My husband and I had a few failed IUI's and then moved from the sanatorium in Happy Valley to the Women's clinic in Central for IVF. I really did not want to do IVF but found out that it was actually our only option for falling pregnant. I found moving to be better as the environment was less stressful and our Dr - Dr Alice Wong had lots of time for us. We were very lucky as we are now pregnant 20 weeks with twins!

Emotionally, I did not talk much about it to friends in the first two years, but in the last year I found it much more freeing to at least have them know a little more about what we were going through. I also had a best friend back home who went through IVF before me, and she was a great sounding board. So suggest finding someone who has been through a few IVF's to chat with.

I also recommend Accupuncture - Dr Troy Sing in Central is really good.

If you ever want to meet up - always happy to.
 
Congratulations chewy.....amazing news...

Question for u.....did u eat anything or do anything specific during the 2ww? I'm about to do the egg collection so any advise be good

All my friends at home were very lucky and fell pregnant (with what seems like no trouble) we have been trying for almost 4.5years but IVF only started this year....I wished I had started earlier so my eggs were younger...but nothing I can do about that now...
 
Hi Monste,

I didn't change much in terms of food. I did drink some Chinese herbal medicine/tea stuff from a local TCM - did this between egg collection and the transfer.

I did acupuncture the day before the transfer and again during the 2ww. I tried to keep up with my usual routine during the 2ww but I did not do any physical activity. And yes we were very lucky. Almost miscarried at 9 weeks which was very scary and think was down to me trying to do too much. So listen to your body...

I also resigned to the fact that we are each on our own fertility journey - so take advice that works for you.
All the best!!
 
Congrats, Chewy - that's amazing! I have read that Troy Sing does not actually insert the needles himself, and that he gets his apprentices to do so - is that the case? I just wouldn't want to pay for his time only to be fobbed off to trainees...

Monste, good luck with your egg retrieval!

I've had one blastocyst transferred yesterday and am now going through the excruciating 2WW. Fingers crossed!
 
Fingers and toes crossed rainbowbrite!

I have had Troy and the other lady interchange with inserting the needles and felt fine with either. I also went to Wellsoon TCM in Happy Valley as some days did not want to stress out trying to get to appointments in central when I lived in the valley. As long as acupuncturist was fully qualified through the university.

Once again, all the best :)
 
Got a call from the doctor today....12 eggs were retrieved, 10 mature but only 6 fertilised.....now have to wait to see how many actually make it to day 3.
My last cycle saw 16 retrieved, 12 mature, 11 fertilised and 7 good eggs..
I'm quite upset and anxious why this cycle seems to have been not as good and anxious to know how many make day3....
Doc recommended not doing day 5 given the amount that fertilised....

I know I only need 1 good one but based on my last try's I really think quantity would help
??????
 
Hi Monste,

Are you doing ICSI or natural? Keep positive, I believe that it is still a good result based on what my doctor has said to me.

My first IVF cycle had 16 retrieved, 6 fertilised and 5 made it to Day 5, all of which were ICSI.

Sending my best wishes for the next 3 days and hope you get good news. It's normal to be anxious, but let's just hope it is all in good hands.

Best wishes
 
Hi buddy

Yes ours are icsi...so we had 3 grade 1 eggs from this cycle...my last was 7 (4 grade 1 and 3 grade 2)
He only put one back as I am high on hormones and chance of ohss

So if u don't mind me asking...did u want to do day 5 or did doc recommend? I am mixed on if day 3 is better and let the egg blast in natural environment or if day 5 better...how did u decided

Thanks for getting in touch
 
Hi Monste, best of luck for your cycle. I've been through this journey for 2.5 years of IUIs and IVFs, so I know how it feels.
I really wanted to do 5 day transfers and after some heart-breaking experiences also wanted my doc to do a 5-day transfer and also get PGS testing done, but my RE was against it.
Touchwood - it worked on what was going to be our last try with that particular RE! For the cycle that worked, I did a few sessions of acupuncture and also took some Chinese herbs. Not sure if that helped, or it was just "probability", as my RE says.
Good luck, and feel free to PM me if you want to talk further/ need more info.
 
Hi Monste

Wishing you all the best on your 2ww. Our second cycle netted 3 grade 2 and 3 grade 2- so it's good that you've got some at grade 1. Keep positive.

Fingers crossed for you!
 
Hi [MENTION=97026]isahk01[/MENTION]

I personally think that stress really does impact the IVF process. Not sure about infertility in general. When we did our first IVF cycle I was very stressed and busy with work - results were 5 embies, 2 we transferred and 3 were too poor quality to keep.

We did our second cycle after a 2 week holiday and I was super relaxed and work was quiet so less stressful and got much better results. However, I was also take more supplements - DHEA, CoQ10, DHA, Materna, Royal Jelly. I had been taking the supplements for approx 3 months before the hormone injections as I'd read somewhere that egg production cycle takes about 3 months.

I think I only took materna during the first cycle.

I'm not sure if that helps you at all but being less stressed can't hurt your chances! Massages, facials, holidays...all worth trying IMO :smile::biggrin:
 
Congratulations too!

I am currently looking into getting fertility treatment but wanted to know whether anyone knew anything in regards to getting your health insurance to cover it?

It's such an expensive treatment. I've received some really good advice from Pacific Prime Insurance brokers but not sure whether to go ahead with it. I wanted to see whether anyone else has had experience here?
 
Hi [MENTION=97162]LaurainHK[/MENTION]

I looked into the insurance thing and remember that there was a substantial waiting period before it would 'kick in'....in the end, we just thought it was too long a wait - especially as there was no guarantee that the IVF process would be quick either and we'd already been trying for a long time.

On the other hand, depending on your IVF doctor/clinic - you may need to wait 6 months or more for your first appointment.

There is also a government public infertility/IVF program and the costs are substantially cheaper - circa HK$15,000 for one cycle the last time I checked. The waiting time is circa 2 years (we were looking at an appointment in 2017 when I called last Sept!). It may be a good idea to register anyway and if the private option doesn't work out, you could always do the treatment at Queen Mary at the lower cost. QM also have a private route which has a shorter waiting time - circa 6 months.

Even if you don't do the insurance coverage for IVF, I would recommend getting maternity coverage now so that when the time comes, you are covered for some private check ups and they generally cover the newborn for a period of time. Also note, some health insurance do NOT cover IVF pregnancies...mine doesn't so we're not covered for anything.
 
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