How old were you when you were ready for a baby ?

When were you ready for a baby ?

  • < 20

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • 21 - 25

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • 26 - 30

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • 31 - 35

    Votes: 22 45.8%
  • 36 - 40

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • 41 +

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • Old enough !

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • Still deciding...

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • Total voters
    48
Gracey - I wasn't being resentful and never said being a parent means being a loser... you've really over analyzed what I've wrote into pure negativity when really it was just a passing cloud of worry that I needed to get out there and off my chest.
I think it was an obvious joke when I asked whether there are kennels for babies, I would of thought the face with a smiley tongue out signified that.
And seriously, mentioning rich people who put their kids in fancy orphanages, what has that got to do with anything I wrote? I find it quite insulting that you are mentioning these types of parents in the same breath of your analysis of my character.

I visit this forum to learn about child related matters in HK, and I wrote my post for reassurance, I definitely don't come here to be judged and criticized.
 
Cuppeatea -- I'm sorry if you understood my comment or were offended.
Of course you were joking about kennels! I actually said so in my comment. (And, uh, obviously.) I didn't say you personally were some crazy mainland Chinese sending her baby off -- I was making a general point about someone who doesn't want kids, but who has them anyway because of societal pressure.

I can't possibly analyze your character since I don't know you -- just a brief comment you left on some board. But if you go to a site filled with mostly dedicated, hard-working parents, and your comment is all about how you don't want to go through labor or give up your dinners and late mornings -- what did you expect? People are going to respond honestly. I wouldn't take it personally.

Sometimes, these complex difficult decisions are actually quite simple. In the end, there are really just two options
* If you love children and are willing to spend the time and effort to raise them, then have children.
* If you're unsure about children, and are unwilling to make the changes to your lifestyle, then don't have them.
It's a personal choice, and there's no right or wrong. I don't think anyone here would "judge or criticize" you if you took a deep look at your priorities and decided which was best for you.

But, yeah -- the first few months, you do go out for fewer nice dinners, etc, because you have this lovable and infuriating little creature at home who needs you. Especially if you're breastfeeding, which is better for your child, but limiting for mom.
But that time passes soon. And, especially with affordable Hong Kong childcare, you can pretty quickly return to your social life.
 
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Just going back reading through this thread is very interesting for me.

All I can say is that having kids really does change a person. Sometimes I grieve for my childless days but those moments of grief are quite fleeting because my life is too full to focus on them.

I didn't plan to have kids. I really, really had my mind set on not having children at all. It wasn't my plan to get pregnant and have a child before I was 25-years-old. And it was really hard...the first three years (including the nine months of pregnancy) were not cheery and fun memories that I look back on. Mostly it was a lot of suffering. I did feel isolated here in Hong Kong (as I still often do) because my family (my mom, sister etc.) is not here. I did have a rough labor and recovery the first time around--the labor itself was 43 hours but the recovery was a solid few months because of what happened to me. Breastfeeding was a total nightmare for 6 solid months. I had post-partum depression for at least 18 months maybe 2 years. I really did suffer. My body was never the same and whatever hope I had of a "normal" social life went bye-bye after my son was born. Basically, it was no longer about me but about my son (and now my daughter because we were just "that crazy" that we decided to have a second child).

But, I really can't imagine my life without my children. Sure, it might be more adventurous as I could just pack up with my husband and go like we used to. It would certainly be more carefree as I wouldn't be consumed with making the right decisions for my kids so that they can have a good life and future. But, I'm sure I would be a much more selfish person. I think parenthood has been good for my soul. :)

So, yes, for me, having a child was life-shattering. I felt like a completely broken person after my son was born but there's something refreshing in that too. The whole experience has brought me face-to-face with the real, ugly me. And that has been cleansing in a way.

One thing I wanted to say is that those kids you see running around, screaming uncontrollably--1) Sometimes kids are like that but if you're doing your job right as a parent those moments should only be brief--what you witnessed is possibly not a true reflection of what life is like most of the time for that mother 2) You can choose how you parent your children and that will affect their behavior. If you don't want your children to be wild, noisy and out-of-control...parent them differently. That's the beauty of it. You will rarely see my son wild, noisy and out-of-control. It does happen, but like I said...it's brief and it's healthy for kids (and adults sometimes too ;) )

So, no new advice to give actually except that from my perspective, I'm glad I'm a "young parent" rather than an older parent. I have a friend who got married when he was 18-years-old and had his first child when he was 20-years-old. He said it was a rough time at first because he was really a kid and then he had to grow up and become a parent right away. But, he also talks about the positives for his and his wife's marriage and also the prospect of being "empty nesters" much sooner than all of his peers. He and his wife have been married for 14 years. Everything has it's pluses and negatives. We have a principle in our family that we don't make fear-based decisions. It's fine to be fearful about something but we've decided that we simply won't make decisions--especially major life-decisions out of fear. Deal with your fear and then you can more reasonably see if you're ready to have children.
 
I agree, Thanka. Parenthood has been good for my soul.
Not that I was a selfish person before. But being a parent forces you to put always someone else first.
While we still enjoy ourselves -- that desire to constantly go out, fly off to vacation, diminishes once you have the child in your arms, and you know you're responsible for this tiny person.
It's true that it's tough. But after 10 months, I can basically shrug off my labor (like you, mine was 40+ hours), which seems like so little compared to the joy I have now. Same goes for the breastfeeding, which felt like hell the first two months, but which don't seem to be such a big deal looking back.
If you love kids and are willing to sacrifice for them, they're great.
 
LOL! men are such wusses... if it was up to them, there would have been 1 birth, then that man would have told all of the other men and that would have been the first and last baby ever born....;)
 
Vagina/womb envy is actually a prominent part of feminist psychology and an unexpressed form of envy experienced by men who compensate for it by being overtly masculine. OR SO the feminists say. I think GeoDerek is just more comfortable with expressing his feminine side and nothing wrong with it at all!
 
I'll be 26 in a few weeks and my lil boy is 7 months old. My mom told me that God had told her that 2011 was the year for me to pop her a grandbaby. I laughed it off, because I wasn't married and I was in a long distance engagement. And when I say long distance engagement, I mean South Africa and France apart. I don't know what came over us when we flirted with risk, but that one-time risk got me knocked up. We got married the day after my birthday and I'm relishing every moment of motherhood. This coming from a girl who vowed to her grade 4 teacher that she'd never wed nor have babies. All I can say is things change as we grow and what we have planned for ourselves doesn't always go according to plan. So now that I'm older and a wiser to my capabilities and strength as a woman, I can proudly say I was born ready.
 
Vagina/womb envy is actually a prominent part of feminist psychology and an unexpressed form of envy experienced by men who compensate for it by being overtly masculine. OR SO the feminists say. I think GeoDerek is just more comfortable with expressing his feminine side and nothing wrong with it at all!


Nope. Nothing wrong with it. Just think it's interesting.
 
women are so lucky that they can give birth.

poor men will never have the option...

One man in Canada had a baby. Breastfed for like 16 months too. He is causing a bit of a controversy in Canada because he wants to be a LLL leader but they won't let him because all leaders have to be female. Crazy story in the news the past few days.
 
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