hoping for help from all you hk yummy mummy's

i lived in hk for 12 years before i moved to a place with a real oven! man, did i ever miss it! we had a "table top" one, but it just wasn't the same.

flats in places like Discovery Bay, southside & sai kung that have more expats often have ovens.

i really wouldn't bother bringing much. things here are not too expensive and you don't want to clutter up your small kitchen with things you won't use very often. (eg. i bought a food processor here YEARS ago. it's now been boxed up for over 2 years and hasn't been used! my helper prefers to do it all by hand.)
 
ok cool - i have a husband , who , like most men is never keen to part with cash for anything to do with the house! so he would like to bring as many of our electricals as we deem we would fit! i was just concerned about using the adapters for a long period of time - i assume though they are perfectly safe if every one is doing it??? we will be in hk for 2 yrs ( so we say) so hubby doesn;t want to outlay for new appliances.
ok next question - i never know whether i am supposed to start a new thingy or just keep going here - so i'll keep going!!!
is most fruit consumed in hk from china?? this might seem like a strange question but when in india we didn't eat fruits grown in local water - like watermelon - as it could make u really sick ( found that one out the hard way!)
i know that most people probably get their groceries from that park and shop place - but are they all imported? and rather pricey??
 
there are local fruits (lychee etc) that are fine.

a lot of what you see in the supermarkets and even in the wet markets/fruit stands are imported. my mother, who ran a produce counter in canada for 22 years, was shocked when she saw the boxes for the fruit here. they were exactly the same as what she sold.

there are also local organic farmers around that you can order from.

some things here are ridiculously expensive (ie. raspberries) others are reasonable.
 
We've found produce we buy here - both from the markets and supermarkets are all fine. The produce comes from all over the world. Bananas from the philippines, mushrooms from new zealand, apples from the USA... even in the markets you can ask WHERE the produce is from (if they speak enough english or you speak enough cantonese). You can choose in the supermarkets from local or imported - and obviously the price varies.
Regardless of where we buy our produce, we always wash it just out of habit - even used to do that back home in Oz.
It more comes down to where you find the quality and price of produce you want will be where you shop.

On appliances: We use some HK appliances and some from Oz - haven't had any problem using adapters for our Oz plugs.
 
excellent - thanks guys....carang - can u tell me which other fruits are really expensive, as my friends are doing a vacola batch for me ( baby food) as a bit of a good bye pres, will get them to do the ones that are pricey there.
i know meat is expensive there - my friend's dad is a butcher - and one of his daughters lives in jakata - and he kevlar(? don't know how to spell it) wraps half a cow and takes it on the plane in a suit case for her!!! don't know that i am quite that ambitious yet ......
u must think i am crazy asking all this - but i am one of those people here in oz that shops at 3 different places to get the cheapest of every thing.....even here food is expensive ....and u can save sao much if u just do the research and take a little time......
wow - i think for once i haven't woken up with a question in my head!!!!!
but pls stay tuned for more REALLYYYYYY appreciate your help ladies!!!!!:smile:
 
the only fruit that i find to be ridiculously priced are the raspberries. there may be others but i've been here for almost 15 years and i've become used to the prices. when i go back to canada, i kind of go crazy at how cheap everything is...

as for bringing 1/2 a cow.... you will most likel only have the top of the fridge for a freezer as deep-freezes are VERY rare... (i've only seen 2 in my entire time here!)
 
Hi there,
Just wanted to drop you in a line and wish you all the best with your move. I'm from Melbourne as well, and whilst I do miss 'home' at times, I also love Hong Kong. It is an amazing place and I am sure you will really enjoy your time here.
Keep posting those questions, there are many friendly 'faces' around here that will help you out.
Hubby and I have been here for 18 months and have had no problems with using electrical adaptors with our Australian appliances. The only problem is tracking them down in the apartment when we need them! Hubby is convinced that I hide them from him!
Hope all goes well with the move! Enjoy Christmas in Melbourne - we're missing out again this year as I'm due to deliver our baby a couple of weeks before Christmas. :)
 
hi monty!!!!
nice to meet you....
you are not missing anything here in Melb - it is cold, windy and gray as usual! I am in ugg boots and trackies and it is october!!!! ( not to mention my house is filled to the brim with clothes on every surface trying to get dry!)
i have just had a little boy - is this yr first bub? r u having it in hk? good luck! if it is a dec baby u are getting a sag, which i am! so hope fully it will be cruisy and up beat!
i am feeling a lot calmer now about this move - i feel i have done all the prep wk i can - got my daughter into a school- passports for both kids - arranged a serviced apt - all while doing 7 feeds a day - gotta love the internet!
i am stocking up on bonds and cotton on for my little boy - as i didn't see a whole lot of "basics" for baby boys when i was over there.
i am told causeway bay is good for kids shopping..???

now - question of the day ....car seats.....which brands fit in cab, and are they really safe with just a seat belt thru them - ( in oz they have to be locked into baby bolt in back of car too!)...also water filters ....any tips on good ones....and how do u go with baby "drinking" bath water (off hands....) it doesn't make them sick????

thanks ladies ...mixed bag of q's today!!!

:rolling
 
there are local fruits (lychee etc) that are fine.

a lot of what you see in the supermarkets and even in the wet markets/fruit stands are imported. my mother, who ran a produce counter in canada for 22 years, was shocked when she saw the boxes for the fruit here. they were exactly the same as what she sold.

there are also local organic farmers around that you can order from.

some things here are ridiculously expensive (ie. raspberries) others are reasonable.

No kidding, the same? I assumed the vast majority of fruits and veg at the wet markets came from China. I wouldn`t know how to ask - the market sellers here definitely do not speak English, maybe a smattering of numbers only. Guess that`s something I`ll have to learn in Cantonese - country names. I only know China, and that`s bc it sounds like Mandarin. But who`s to say they would tell the truth anyway? Especially when they see a foreigner who looks like they might like foreign things. At least at ParkNShop, you can trust (I hope) that what they write is true. I would much rather buy imported anything than anything from China.
There is a PNS brand called Grace Cup and though it`s not organic, it`s a better kind of produce, from Malaysia, but grown in compost, in the highlands and irrigated with spring water.
 
Kids shopping in central also u have many stores in Prince's building and also in Ocean Terminal in TST has many shops
 
mei gok- USA
ga la dai- canada
oh zow- australia
ma loy sai ah- malaysia
ying gok- england
ba sai-(if i remember correctly) brazil
hong gok-korea
yat bun- japan

but seriously, they all go to the same wholesalers....
 
i really think that you are thinking this out too much. it is impossible never to ingest hk water.

there is nothing intrinsically wrong with hk water. it's the pipes that it flows through that can sometimes cause a problem.

in my 15 years, i've never had a problem with the water. i use it to brush my teeth as well as my kids' teeth... no one has gotten sick from it.
 
Hi OP,

I think that you are over thinking the move too much.

Personally, as an Australian myself, I thought about the following before I moved:

* Downsizing - donate, donate, donate!

* A legal will

* Body Repatriation - A horrible thought, I know, but if something were ever to happen to you or your loved ones overseas - you must know the best manner to deal with this.

* Where is the Consulate?

* medical record transfers/ insurance/storage insurance

* Superannuation/ banking/money/tax issues - with many banks in AU - if you do not access them in a certain amount of time they become dormant and require more ID to access.

Moving O/S is exciting, however, it really becomes the same as living else where in the world.
 
crikey body repatriation!!!??? u did think things thru!!!!never would have thought of that in a million years!! lol. But thanks - i guess it is worth looking into - the rest i have done/ or hubbies company will take care of ....i am just interested in every day life in hk, and first and foremost my kids health and happiness. :)
 
Hi there!
Re. carseats - I had the same question before we moved here. First of all you are not required to have a carseat in a taxi at all.
For your newborn, you will probably feel safest with an infant seat in the taxi. We use our old Graco seat from the USA and it is just fine with the seat belt through it. Also bear in mind that in a taxi you are rarely traveling at really dangerous high speeds. just about any seat with slots to run the seatbelt through should work fine in a taxi.

for our older daughter (4) we don't use a carseat of any kind in the taxi. We also sometimes just use a Bjorn or other carrier with the baby (8 months) in the taxi if we're going somewhere where it would be difficult to lug around both the carseat and the stroller.

of course if you choose to buy a car you can install the carseat as needed.

I was really freaked out about the vegetables and fruits and it has been fine. I try to buy different things from a variety of sources/countries/different stores to make sure I'm getting a variety of toxins. LOL. that's about it. There are also a couple of stores in Central (Three Sixty and Oliver's) that sell a range of organic fruits and veg. Much of it comes from Australia and New Zealand. Other things are from China but certainly not all of it.

In fact you'll see a lot of Australian brands and products here.

The water is fine, I used boiled tap water for my baby's formula when I need it. In Mainland China, this is not the case but in Hong Kong the water is pretty good. My baby dunks her mouth in the bath water all the time - she is a fast one - and so far no problems.

Kids' shopping - I have a hard time with clothes here, the sizes are different and the quality ranges from fabulous and expensive to cheap and you get what you pay for, so I tend to stock up when I am back in the States. But, there are good shops in Central, Causeway Bay, and Stanley Market has tons of kids clothes for sale as well. If you are like me you will have a bit of fun shopping around, learning the different shops, and finding what you like.

Oh and re helpers - yes, would definitely recommend - it is one of the best things about living here - lots of things take longer here, IMHO - running errands, doing the shopping - all take longer, not the same as the suburban/urban lifestyle I was used to in the USA and that I think is pretty similar to Oz. So having an extra pair of hands helps. Plus, who likes doing dishes or laundry? I still do most of the cooking as I enjoy it, and having an on-call babysitter is about the best thing ever. There are lots of resources out there on the interweb about how to find a good helper, conduct interviews, etc - if you have questions or would like some info PM me. That can help make sure you get the right person. And you know if you go through the process and it's not working out, you end the contract and find someone new. It happens all the time. It's a hassle and you'd have to start over and find a new person (and the hiring process and getting the helper their visa to work for you in HK can take about 6 weeks) but to get someone you are comfortable with it is worth it. When you get here start asking around for recommendations, join the AWA (American Women's Association (it's for all women)), and you'll probably find someone who comes well recommended.

Also recommend you check into the AWA and the YWCA - they run lots of programs for newcomers and are great for meeting people and learning your way around.

best of luck to you. living here (2+ years for us so far) has been a marvelous time for us.
 
WOW really great tips - thank u for taking the time to write all that!!!!
I am going to buy car seat for bub today( he has been in capsule) - and my big girl(5) will be stoked to just use the seat belt like a grown up! I have seen this pram/ car seat combo called Maxi Cosi - which looks like it would be ideal - but no one is oz stocks. Has any one seen it in hk?

I might get back to u when it comes to hiring a helper to see what u ask when interviewing - and how a normal day pans out with them ....

not long to go now till we get there - very excited !!!!:thanks
 
Tons of people here have the Maxi Cosi combo and it seems to work very well. It is definitely available here although not cheap. You should know that HK is not very stroller friendly, there are lots of places where there are stairs, hills, etc so we only use the stroller if we know we are going somewhere without too many steps. It will serve you well to also have a baby carrier like the Ergo. and when your bubs is bigger you'll probably want a very lightweight stroller that is easy to carry - many people here like the Combis or the Maclaren. There are tons of threads here about strollers. Good luck!
 
We had the maxi cosi car seat, Bumps 2 Babes in Central sells them, I think about HKD$1400. They do not meet Australian safety standards which is why they are not available in Oz.

We never used our pram walking around Central, we always had bub in a Baby Bjorn. There is way too many people, traffic, stairs and hills to negotiate with a stroller/pram. But they are good for quieter areas and shopping malls.
 
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