Homeopathy for eczema

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YKY

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Has anyone been successful with homeopathic treatments for babies with eczema? I'm still struggling to find a treatment for my son who is 5 1/2 months. After steriods, I went to IMI and am waiting to see improvement. It's been two weeks and we've switched to goats milk formula after being told that my son is allergic to both cow and soya milk formula. Also, we've been given some homeopathic drops including graphite 6c and Rhus tox 6c. We were told to expect a flare-up before things get better and we did see a huge flare up to the point where it's heartbreaking to see my son. However, we're still waiting for improvements....Just wondering if this is the way to go...
 
YKY, sorry to hear. I do feel for you... my son just turned 6 months and he suffers from eczema as well. One time it got so bad that his bedsheet was all bloody!

Now that the condition seems to be under control, still some weeks he'd be fine and some weeks he would have red patches on his temples, chin, back of his ears, ankles, behind his legs and on his torso. Elidel and Steroid (at serious outbreak) helps but it often take a week sometimes more for his skin to clear up. He's taking Nan HA which is supposed to be better for babies his condition. One pd suggested us to try soy milk and another suggested us to be patient and just let him outgrow it - he said a lot of babies suffer from eczema until they are 1 or 2 years old.

Though my baby still have problems when the weather changes, I do notice the condition seem to be less severe as the first few times so I hope the pd is right about babies outgrowing the problem and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Please keep updating this thread, would love to hear more about homeotherapy for eczema and its effect on your son! Thanks and good luck!
 
the exact same thing happened to my daughter. she's been seeing different homeopath since last summer. she's now 2. she's been to IMI, and she's been to Dr Yuan at Optimum Health Centre. Dr Yuan gave her Ovus Cream which really helped (nothing did before). The one person that really helped was her Reiki healer. If you're interested i can pm you her details. but you really have to have faith cos her ezcema flared up like mad & it was all over her cheeks, before it subsided. Knock on wood, she's now so much better & when she eats more yogurt or cheese, it starts a little on the legs & i put ovus cream on.
 
I would like to share a story with you....

I have a child of severe (food) allergies and i also brought her to IMI. My experience is not good as the doctor didn't identify the foods that we know she is allegic to. We are "smart" and only told him a subset of foods we already know she is allergic to, although she is also allergic to heaps of other foods with egg at top of the list (instant flareup at mere touch of eggs). Sure enough, he declared my daughter was only allergic to the foods we told him abt but didn't pick up on eggs, milk and wheat!!! Even then we were willing to try his treatment (sooo desperate we were), he was vague what and long plan treatment would be except to say it would take 6 mths to 1 year, with many flare-ups in between. I figure with this length of time, my daughter would be 1 yr old, the age where her Australian Paed. Allergist said eczema typically becomes better on their own without any intervention! In fact, an experienced mum with eczema kids told me to wait it out until my daughter is 1 year old before actively controlling it with medication or alternative medicine. and the magic mark is apparenrly 3.5 years old, when children outgrow many of their allergies to dairy and eggs...

I understand you mummies are heartbroken to see your kids suffer. If you know me from past threads, you would know I went through the same. I cried rivers and mountains when my daughter has a bad flare-up that requires going into emergency, and every night I would help her scratched her neck and nape as she wouldn't be able to sleep without this soothing scratching. I totally empathise and have a phobia of it happening all over again with no 2 (I am delaying having a second baby as I am so scared). But you know what, my daughter is 18 months now and the moment she turns one, and I am not kidding, her eczema showed marked improvement, and as at past month, we have stopped putting steriod of her. Thinking back, I know I have been overly concerned, and I have turned to steriod all too quickly. We have also broken the bank seeking treatments from chinese doctors, western doctors, homeopathy, but come to realise there is really no cure to eczema (sorry mummies there really isn;t a miracle cure) except having a good management regime of moisturising and soothing the skin, and more importantly, determining what causes your kid's flareups, and in my daughter's case, it is to do with food.

good luck to you all.
 
For our case, I've already checked my child's allergen at hospital that which have reaction against his body and we knew that was wheat.
afterthen we went to see a homeopath at IMI.
I'm very satisfied with homeopathy because we have seen improvement though he had gotten worse for the first time. he had bad eczema in back of knees and elbows sometimes he had hives around cheek too.
I think he took several months to heal this and it might be different time for different case because everyone is unique.
And I also sujest you'd better learning something about homeopathy from books if you don't know much about homeopathy.
We almost no need to see general doctor because we can solve problems with homeopathy quickly, therefore we don't need to waste too much money too!
Hope that helps you.
Histamin
 
I'd just like to share a story abt my son's ezcema treatment. My son had bad ezcema when he was a baby and all treatments prescribed was to apply steroids and lots of cream, ending up with white patches of skin and no real improvement since the ezcema returned every time to the same spots but getting worse. We then changed doctor and it's now "cured". The only difference is that our new doctor was able to think outside of the box and attempt new method of treatment using same things. My son was simply given a course of drugs and a specially mixed medicated cream. We have rarely seen a bad flare up like we did previously and whilst we were initially very reluctant to use drugs on someone so young (around 7/8 mths then), we have continued to see the benefits now (he's now 2)

on a separate note, mommybee, please check your PM for lunch date
 
update on homeopathy

Sorry for the long silence, but wanted to get back to everyone on my son's homeopathy treatment. First, thanks to everyone for sharing their stories.

It's been 3 1/2 weeks since our first visit to IMI. We were told on our first visit that my son is allergic to both cow based and soy based formula. So, we went on goat's milk. Along with that, we were given some homeopathic drops as well as fish oil and probiotic. We were also told to expect a flare up in a few days, but didn't see one until a week later. It was a frightening sight the way my son's skin broke out in angry red. Some spots even looked like blisters. It was shocking as my son's skin was rough but never really broke out like this. His face was the worst of all - especially around his mouth area. The goat's milk didn't bring any changes.

So, before the two weeks were up, I took my son back to IMI and saw another homeopath because ours was away. He prescribed an additional homeopathic drop called graphite 6c and zinc plus what was given before. What happened next was even scarier in a way. My son's body began to dry up and was flaking badly. At the same time, the mouth area became so raw, it was painful to even look at. It was so sad to see blood on his clothes and his desperation to rub against anything to ease the itching.

I tried to go back to IMI. After not being able to contact either homeopaths (I was disappointed in this regard), I practically demanded to see someone. I saw the homeopath who we originally met with and he mentioned that the graphite 6c was probably too strong for my son. He said that my son seemed extremely sensitive to the homeopathic drops and would want to take it very slow. He said that the "detox" has occurred but probably occurred to strongly. He also recommended that we apply for 3 days steroids in the mouth area to "put out the fire" before it got infected. You can imagine how bad it was if a homeopath recommends steroids. So, after a day or two of steroids, the area cleared up almost 100%. He also slept so well and was in a terrific mood these past few days. However, today is the first day we did not use steroids, and sadly, the area around the mouth and cheeks have begun to flare up again. A positive note is that my son's back is smooth although still a bit red and his body in general have gone mostly smooth after the flakiness. We shall see how his face is tomorrow morning and I just pray that it isn't too bad.

I'm scheduled to go back in a few days and discuss changing the formula yet again to Nanha (sp?). I understand that homeopathic treatments take a while but it's really torture for the little one as well as for us. We can't sleep at night because we're so busy running to his room if there is even a slight sound because we're afraid he will scratch (even with his mits). I'm sure he doesn't sleep soundly either.

I also heard of this "no sensitive" formula called Neocate. It is supposedly very expensive and difficult to find in HK. Has anyone tried this?

Well, that's my story so far. I'll keep everyone updated on the homeopathic treatment.
 
my son has used neocate since we discovered his cow's milk allergy at 6 months. We simply took the view that we'd prefer not to see him projectile vomit and turn blue every time he has milk which at that time was crucial! Yes, it is very expensive (10 times more than the usual formula) and we get it delivered direct from the distributor. Let me know if you would like contact details?
 
Nan-HA is a partially-hydrolysed formula and if your son truly has milk allergies, this formula is NOT appropriate for him.

I have a pamplet from Australasian Society of Clinical Immunonology and Allergy (ASCIA) specifically on dairy=milk allergy and patient information which I can photocopy and mail to you if you wish. let me know. Here are some extracts:

"Cow'smilk is a comoon cause of food allergy in infants, but most grow out of this condition and ongoing symptoms in adults are very rare. In Australia and NZ, 1 in 50 babies are allergic to cow's milk and dairy products......Since most children allergic to cow's milk will be allergic to goat's milk products made from goat;s milk are usually not adequate substitutes. After confirming milk allergy, your doctor will usually recommend replacing dairy products with alternative formulae, which may include:
(1) Soy protein formula
around 50-80% of chilren with cow's milk allergy can tolerate soy-base dformulae. In children allergi to soy as well, it is not a suitable substitute"
(2) Extensively hydrolysed formula
This is cow's milk -based formula that has been processed to rbeak dwon most of the proteins which cause symptoms in infants who are allergic to cows milk (eg. Alfare, Pepti-Junior). There are usually supplemnts of first choice in milk allergic children. Since some children iwll still react to this formula, sometimes Amino acid based formula is advised. Extensively hydrolysed formula is different to partially hydrolysed formula (eg Nan-HA) and the latter is not suitable for treatment of milk allergic children
(3) Amino acid based formula
This formula (eg Neocate, Elecare) is necessary in around 1 in 10 children with cow's milk allergy and is tolerated by amost all chuildren with soy or cow's milk allergies."....

"Children allergic to cow's milk are usually allergic to a no of proteins presnet in diary products. Since similar proteins are present in other animal milks such as goat milk and horse milk these products can also trigger allergic reactions, and should be avoided. Partially enzyme-treated cow's milk formula such as Nan-HA may be used to help prevent infants from developing allergies but they are not suitable to be used as treatment for cow's milk allergic children."...."about 80% of infants will grow out of their allergy by the age of 3 years."...."lactose intolerance is caused by the alck of the enzyme lactase, which helps to digest the milk sugar lactose. The symptoms are diarrhoea, vomiting, stomach pain and gas, which are similar to some of the symptoms of milk allergy. This condition is not dangerous, and does not cuase rashes or anaphylaxis. Treatment may involve reducing or avoiding consumption of dairy products containing lactose and substituting these with a lactose-free dorumla or milk".

Excuse the typos as I cannot touch-type but want to give you all the information!

My daughter takes Pepti-Junior, which is much much cheaper than Neonate. and we didn't try soy formula as our aed allergist told us soy may not be very good for babies due to high oestrogen levels. My suggestion is to go with PJ first before heading neocate since 9 out of 10 kids can tolerate PJ. Cross your fingers you don;t need to go Neocate route. Not only is it more cost saving in the long run, PJ is much much more palatable than neonate. Becuase of the hydrolysing process of breaking down cow's milk proteins, the milk changes taste in such a way that the more hydrolysed a formula is, the more bitter it would taste. Thus, Nan-Ha tastes better than PJ tastes better than Neocate. Becuase of this, Neocate, some years ago when I called them up but not sure if they still do it, adds a little bit of sugar into their milk formula to make babies drink it. They are very conscious of this and are good in making sure the sugar content is in its minimum amt to make it nicer to drink. Whichever you decide to go, it helps to call the dieticians up as they are specific ways to make the milk to make it less bitter. For isntance, I never mix my daugheter's milk with BM - I did and gosh, it acquired a third taste; I make it lukewarm to warmer than I would with normal formula as this would "kill" the bitter taste just a little bit; and I never prepared PJ 15mins longer than consumption as PJ taste goes downhill when left at room temperature, and i don't pour hot water directly onto formula as this will again makes it taste funny. Your baby may mor may not take to the taste initially. Some babies drink it like nobody's business, but mine didn't like it at first cos she is used to my BM. The earlier you start, the better as they know no better. It is an acquired taste, and honestly I can't stand PJ. But my daughter now loves it. I recently start to re-introduce cow's milk into her diet and she gave me the yuck look as she is not accustomed to the yummy taste of full cream milk (but sadly she still reacted to 2 teasps of cow's milk so we are back onto PJ).

Let me know if I can help in any way.
MB
 
Glee, one question that can't wait until our lunch date: you mentioned you switched doctor and he gave you course of medication and cream for your son. Mind if I ask what kind of doctor he is - western? chinese? homeopath? and what kind of medication? reason I ask is, by serenpedity, I gave my daughter zyrtec due to a nasty reaction to an insect bite on her ear making it swelled up so badly that she went emergency a couple of months back and noticed not only did the swell subsided but rashes on other parts of her body (not due to insect bite) also cleared significantly. And that is with 1 dose of baby zrytec (5mg/ml given 3ml). Last week she had a mild "accident" at home with eggs - which she is very allergic to - and again one dose of zrytec stopped her itchiness and rashes gone rapidly. Our pead allergist has asked me age ago not to be afraid to use zrytec but like steriods, I resisted giving to my daughter until emergencies occur. Wondering if zrytec is a better way to manage eczema than steriods?? Also waht kind of cream did the doctor gave you? no steriod in them?
 
eczema

Hi, Joannek,

I have bought Ovus Cream yesterday. I want to ask how many times you apply to your child in one day. How long will the skin be recovery. I mean the skin becomes less rash or back to normal. I have applied for three times, but it seems the same.
 
I have used Ovus cream on my son who has eczema, but with no help. Im currently using Bioderma on him and it does shows improvement.
 
Sourcing, I am also using Biderma. Can I ask which are you using? There are apparently two types for babies: (1) Atoderm in emollient form (in toothpaste packaging) $260 and (2) Atoderm (too) but in pump packaging $220. Do you use one or both?
 
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